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    Posted: January 02 2016 at 1:02pm
I'm doing a complete teardown and refurbish of a 1965 Ishy. Charles Stratton's book shows the barrel screws into the Action body assembly. Has anyone unscrewed the barrel from the action body? Are there special tools required, specific torque settings for re-assembly? Is this even a good idea or should I refurb with the barrel/action body attached as is?  Clamping the barrel so it doesn't spin seems to be the biggest hurdle to separating the two.

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Nope, forget taking the barrel off the receiver.
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YES!
You must have a "barrel vice" & a "receiver wrench" specifically designed for that model & mark of rifle or there's a good chance you'll warp the receiver.
Those are screwed in there tight!
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Yes to what ?
Barrel vise and receiver wrench as SOP to remove the barrel ?
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Removing the barrel for a home refurb ?
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Must have barrel vice & receiver wrench to remove barrel.
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Just my point.
Your answer, as worded, seemed to give the impression that one should remove the barrel from the receiver to do a refurb.
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do post photos of your journey , we all want to see this one , 
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Not my intent, sorry.
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Thanks to all for the replies. This is my first attempt at a weapon refurb. although I've done refurbs on other things and do a lot of my own DIY's around the house and am pretty handy.
Someone asked for some before pics so here they are.  The furniture is in decent shape, the butt stock is the most beaten up. All the metal was coated in the rock hard black paint like substance with gaps and a little rust. The barrel is not in the best of shape so that's why I plan to completely strip and re-blue or re-black it.
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Figured that. Just a clarification for a novice.
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that black paint is the original finish , these were not blued or parkerized , the finish is always in some less than perfect condition , but these are found in fairly nice original look sometimes as well , ive seen refinishes that approach the original look quite well , 

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A soda blast (not bead blast) followed by a duracoat job will look good on that metal.
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I agree ikesdad. Bead blast leaves a more porous finish and with the new Duracoat finish would not look as original as the old black.
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Weren't there 2 paint finishes?
One (fairly decent) was the actual standard finish, while the other (thick, gloppy messy, looking like it was done with a wide paintbrush) was an "extra preservative".
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All the black paint finish I have seen look like it was painted by Hoadie with a cheap brush and bad paint.
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The original furniture came in 3 very different types of wood. The fore end group and the rear hand guard were of a lighter color, the butt stock something a little darker and coarser grained and the front hand guard was the darkest and even coarser grained. It became obvious I couldn't lighten the front hand guard and the butt stock to match the fore end group without possible damage or irreversible bleaching. I decided to darken the lighter pieces to more closely match the front hand guard. Here's what the butt stock and rear hand guard look like after some Minwax Espresso stain in comparison to the fore end group un-stained.
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