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    Posted: December 20 2014 at 5:30pm
No, I did not D&T it....got it this way.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Are all the Indian nose caps squared like that? I've never seen (or noticed maybe) that before?
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all the 2A and 2A1 were , i had an earlier mk3 , it had what you are used to seeing 
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I'm new to these so, any info would be appreciated.
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Ok , the 2A & 2A1 rifles are all 762 Nato , were  made as that and were the last of the 'enfield' type rifles issued in india and probably the last of the SMLE type rifles produced by arsenal facilities , i believe there are some being produced commercialy , 

the 2A and 2A1 rifles differ in the rear sight incrementation , they have a different butt plate than their predecessor the mk3 , which was a traditional 303 , and the box magazine is different as well , although like all enfields they were intended to stay with the rifle loaded from chargers above the bolt as all SMLEs were intended , these are recent imports in terms of milsurps so will all  have the importers markings , but i dont believe there have been any real recent imports of these so they have been here for a few years , mine shot well as military rifles - not so well as my charnwood conversion of the no4 - but i digress .....

both traditionally wore the shortened version of the M1907 , a 12" version that the indians squared up the hilt on in its later variants , actually the indians started shortening to 12" even with the mk3 and their 410s , there were three mfgr markings for these [RFI , NWR , and the other i cannot recall without checking references ] and mkII / mkII* variants the first having a false edge the second not , both without fullers , ive oversimplified this to limit confusion starting out , it can get far more complicated .......and theres plenty of time for that .........

these rifles wore the traditional commonwealth slings , the bayonets wore traditional , albeit shortened scabbards , these had fairly short service life compared to other enfield rifles , the FAL replaced them when the indians copied the pattern , besides they needed an SLR in this modern world , these got relegated to 2nd line service quickly in terms of most service rifles , but you still see them in photos from their once in a while , 

i no longer own my mk3 , 410 , 2A or 2A1 and the bayonets etc - i no longer even have photos of all of these , they went to a young collector i hoped would become as fixated as most of us , im pleased to see you are 

BTW , they never had the scope , thats an aftermarket sporterized change made in afterlife , but today i use scopes as my eyes fail me 
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A Square, thanks for the great info. I have not torn it apart yet and looked for all the markings and a good cleaning. I will do that soon as I have a range trip scheduled for the first of the year. I realize the scope does not belong and is not even period correct but, I new it was D&T'd and was looking for a plinker at 300yds or so. My eyes are not that bad yet but, I enjoy scope shooting more than iron sights.

I would like to get a more period correct scope for it (just for looks) so, what do you suggest? I was looking through some for sale ads at "vintage" scopes but, not sure what would look/perform best for this rifle.
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that should serve you well , she is a nice looking setup , there is much more to learn - but im not going to be the source anymore ive forgotten most of what i learmned of these back when i owned mine , 

i wish i had retained my photos but i trusted photobucket and a had a falling out when they made "improvements" that cost me my original account , we have made up - but i lost a lot of my old rifles and bayonets  and accouterment photos from the past , i digress ........

enjoy your rifle its a very nice example 
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Very strong actions these for the  7.62 Nato.
The squared off nosecap came into production while they were still making the No1 Mk 3 in .303, as well as the rear sight with no sides to the sight cap.   also I believe not milled for the stacking swivel.


I'll look out the info if I get a minute.

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No definite dates for this nosecap, But Skennerton says this style introduced in the war, ...1939-45, and later production.
Wasn't milled for stacking swivel, and also fitted with the "T" rear sight.

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Thanks for the info, Bundook!!!
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What sort of groups can you shoot with that? I'm getting tired of my M1930 Mauser and quite fancy either one if these or a P14/17.

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Hey flanker..... I haven't shot it for groups yet. I was only able to shoot it at 50yds with ZQi factory ammo. At that range, if I remember correctly, I was shooting a 1.5" group (without actually trying). I'm sure with some accurizing and hand loads, you could get 1 to 2 moa.....which is good for a surplus rifle.
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