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ChrisD. That's sound advice from Englishman. I you check out some of his previous projects; you'll see he knows what his talking about. if it was my project; I'd probably locate a good used stock and set it up properly to get it shooting. Then turn my attention to the original and have a go at a proper repair. 
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I will take your advice and go with plan B.  I will put this stock away for a couple of years when I have time on my hands to attempt the detailed wood work.
 
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The new fore stock came in and it will require some fitting.  I have been looking at other posts and understand to take it slow and use hand files taking off a little at a time.  I have a new guard screw bushing to install on the stock.  One question:  The wood is unfinished. Should I work on the dry wood or do a few weeks of rubbing the stock with oil before making the trims?
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chris D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2017 at 5:46pm
I figured I could not waste the weekend. I had a 1/2 pint of Milky paint pure tung oil left from refinishing a M1C Garand last year so I started the tung oil protocol with a 75% mineral spirits/25% tung oil.  7 days working up to a 50/50 mix. Then once a week for a month.  May not be correct for the Indian Army but the Indian wood look great with one application.   I will be sending the metal parts off to get a black cerakote finish as close as possible to the indian paint.  Gives me plenty of time to do a 10 coat finish on the wood and then let it sit for a month to cure.  Also picked up a set of wood files, so when the metal comes back I can start fitting it.  I will use the old stock as a template. 
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I'd stop refinishing & do any wood trimming & fitting first.
Its a round & round in ever decreasing circles thing & at some point you may well be working on finished areas.
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Taking your advice.  It appears the draws are long.   Looking down through the magazine catch channel there is several tenths of an inch overhang.  I will file a bit at a time maintaining angle on the draws.
 
 
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Yes! Sneak up on it, its easier to fix if you don't remove too  much.

Don't forget to check washer (pillar spacing) & so on as well.

Its not a "fix one thing first then fix everything else later" type of deal. As the draws fit better the bore & action will shift, so go over & check that, check the pillar in front of the magazine, & the forend bedding, fix that, then come back to the draws.

Each time you "complete the circuit" the adjustments get finer.
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I have not had time to fit the fore stock but I have been slowly taking the rifle action apart to clean out all of the this black paint that is in every working area.  I am going to get the rifle action refinished I finally got the safety spring screw off and the safety spring.    The rest is a challenge.  There is a bunch of crude in the mechanism.  Is there a way to get the rest off? 
Pretty much given up on removing the trigger pin. it looks like it was peened in from both sides.  Right now taking the backsight apart.
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That will depend a bit on the exact nature of he crud.
Hard, dried grease, soak in WD-40, Paint, either paint stripper or sand blasting.
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Thanks.  A paint remover followed by alcohol soak did the trick.  That Indian black paint soaks in everywhere.
 
 
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A couple of questions:  I did complete the fore stock fitting, shaving off both the draws and around the chamber.  It fits now and is tight enough that it takes a couple of soft hits to get it off.
 
I screwed up trying to fit it at about 98% done. It was too tight at the very bottom of the draws.  It now has a small separation behind the draws (just above the pen in the picture).  Is this repairable? It is seems to be an area that can be glued easily. 
 
I have been disassembling the rifle action as I will send it off for refinishing.  I have taken the backlight mechanism off so I can clean out all of the black paint.  
Question.  The leaf spring is not coming off after the removal of the screw.  I suspect it is glued to the housing with paint as I have not seen any reference to it be secured other than by the screw.    Is that correct?  I have a replacement leaf spring if taking this one off requires force.  They are going to have to drill the trigger pin out as it is not coming out even with a pin pusher.  I have a replacement on hand.
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I am not even touching your questions because first you need to clean up those draws. That should be square with the area of the receiver. In that current condition you WILL turn that foreend into matchsticks inside of 10 rounds. I say this from experience. Clean the draws up properly and then go from there.
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Things have been busy and it took a while to completely disassemble the 2A.  After getting it apart except for the trigger (both sides of the pin were peened) I took it to have it Cerekoted.  Not quite authentic but it is black paint and I can actually work some of the parts like the sights.  Also now one can see the SN and all of the stampings.  Most will eventually be under wood but I should not have to worry about corrosion in unseen places.  Now I have to pull out all of my pictures and make sure I get all of the screws lined up.
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I read you had a recommendation to get some surplus ammo. Stay away from the Indian. I had purchased a small amount and it was fine. Bought 500 rounds at a gun show and blew off my extractor. there was as much as 20 grains variance from she!! to she!!. Had to pull and reload all the ammo. Oldhand
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Roger.  From what I have read, no steel case (don't have any or want any)  and try to stick to milspec as the commercial brass may expand and make extraction difficult.  I have a good supply of M80 both Federal and PPU as I have a M14 clone so this should get a steady diet of NATO standard military ammo.
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I know nothing about these Ishapore rifles. Can they be good shooters?
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