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    Posted: November 30 2008 at 3:06am
Hello folks. My next door neighbour just showed me his Parker Hale. It seems to be a nice rifle. What I didn't realize was he uses 303 British Ammo. Is this the ammo he should be using?

There are a lot of interchangeable parts.Bolt, magazine and even my loading chargers will load his 5 shot magazine. He'd like to put a scope on the rifle but it looks like he may have to tap it in order to mount the scope. If the parker hale people would not have cut off the rear site he would be able to use a no gunsmithing mount like we do.
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All the Parker Hale .303's were were reburnished #4's There is no problem using Mil surp ammo in them apart from the corrosive ammo baiscly they restocked ,rebarreled & cleaned up the Action! They are a Bloody nice Firearm though & normally shoot like steam !

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Not all were No4's. Mine is a Parker Hale deluxe and it's a 1920 No1 Mk3*. They converted both.
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Very correct, swotty.
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Same here. Mine was a 1917 No1 Mk3. There are even pictures of it in the aftermarket Enfields as my second Lee Enfield. 
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You should really positively ID the chambering. Many .303 British were modified in some way for many different calibers.
There was .303 Improved, with a blown out case neck, Epps .303 a different version of the same idea, & several 7mm '03 as well as a shortened .303 sporting for use in countries that forbade "Military Calibers".
What is marked on it there should be a proof rating in tons (sq") &  a length.
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Although some were blown out and such, the vast majority of P-Hale L -E's were standard .303 calibre.
 
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Yes, but as he voiced some doubt I think its worth checking.
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Check for what?

A Parker hale in 303 British? 

Sounds about right to me.

At this point, we actually don't know what model of Enfield the neighbour has. I think that he likely has his cartridges figured out, he shoots it.

It was the OP that had a question about the 303 Brit ammo, not the owner. 

With a commercial proofed rifle, the cartridge chambering info is stamped on the barrel. If reworked and calibre was changed, it would read as so. That is what I would check to confirm cartridge first.
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"If reworked and calibre was changed, it would read as so."
I agree it SHOULD be, but I once came across a 45/70 conversion without any indication, so if in doubt check thoroughly!
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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

"If reworked and calibre was changed, it would read as so."
I agree it SHOULD be, but I once came across a 45/70 conversion without any indication, so if in doubt check thoroughly!
 
It depends where it was modified and by who.
Here in the UK anyone who changes the barrel of a rifle, calibre, chambering etc. must have it re proofed. The penalty for not doing so is severe almost certainly a place in one of her Majesty's hostelries.
 
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Yes, you are right Shamu, the thing could have been rechambered by a home smith in North America and not marked.

Eeek!, a 45/70 would leave a thin smle barrel wall.

A quick chamber cast using candle wax and a bucket of ice is often useful for checking the chamber. Not very accurate, but close enough for many cases (pun intended).
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Oh the barrel was swapped for a 45-70 one but it was unmarked.
Yep, there's no reproofing required in the U.S for a caliber change. I never really thought about it till now, thee probably should be.
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