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    Posted: March 26 2006 at 10:48am
 Last night was a bleak ,Wet ,Thundery night ! No good for Foxes but a chance to spend a Everning in another Shooters camp ! THe gent in question is called Bb Fisher & is a gentleman of the Old school ! I found out last night his in his early 90's & started out as a rabbit trapper at the age of 10 ! He has always used .303's & their off spring to hunt so as we were settled for the night I decided to pick his brains on the subject of .303's !
        He started with, where shall we start ? (I knew then I was in for a long night )He pointed out in the early days of his career that there were still Metfords avalible & that if you were'nt carefull & brought one You would burn the barrel out in n time with cordite charged ammo & most shot round corners ! Martinis were a faverite Of the Buff shooters of his day as they hunted from horse back riding up to the animal & shooting it in the spine & then on to the next animal ! It was'nt a case of good shooting it was a case of good horsemanship! Some of the ammo they would get in those days was still Black powder & it was a hit & miss affair !
       After WW2 there was mil surplus galore avalible & Bob once brought a Ton (yeah a Ton) of .303 ammo for 5 pound !!!!!! Now the problem was it was both Ball & Belted ammo so there was Amour piecing ,Normal MK7 & Tracer & who had the time or inclination to sort it ? Bob asked me if I had ever had a .303 go through a Buff ? I mean in one side & out the other!!! at 100yrds  Oh course I had'nt !!!!! He pointed out  I'd never fired AP ammo !!!!! Another funny one  was taking a dshot at a Buff & watching the tracer  go right in front of it's head  (tends to startle both victiam & shooter ) Or shooting in long grass in the dry & starting a grass fire after shooting a Tracer (not so funny when you in the grass at the time Bob assured me of this to stop me chocking I was laughing so much)
        Bob got me my first start as a Buff shooter up North! Up til then I had only worked Rabbits & was just getting into the Roo industry & I had a hell of a time getting my Parents to let me go with him (I was 16 ) I found out last night that He & my Father had shot Crocs together & I think I have found the answer of why my Dad Has never forgiven me for becomming a Pro shooter ! It used to be a common practice to cut about a 1/8 of a inch of the end of MK7 ammo to make it expand  (Dum-Dum) but if you cut anymore away the core continues on & leaves the jacket stuck in the Barrel  Apparently Dad found this out the Hard way once & on another occastion whilst out in a boat ,spotlighting Crocs (the prefered way of shooting them ) He & Bob had picked up a set of eyes on a high bank ! Now Bob reckons that he was'nt sure if it was a Croc ,but Dad being pig headed shot it anyway to prove that it was ! Anyway after the Prize Stud bull that had been hit between the eyes hit the water they agreed that (A) it was'nt a Croc & (B) this would never be mentioned again ! I'm really looking forward to a visit with dear Old Dad & bring ing the matter up !
      Yes a great way to spend a everning even if there were several  mentions of little mistakes I have made over the years !

       Dave

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Dave, these are the nights you'll remember! It's good you can still have a hunting tradition, If you talk guns around here in a coffee shop, you have to whisper, lest the swat team shows up!  40 years ago I was walking down a local road in the rain after shooting ducks, and a  man stopped to give me a ride and asked how I did. If you were seen in this area loading a gun into a car today, the neighbors would probably be calling the cops!
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Yes it's a funny thing Ed As Pros we seem to spend our working lives in solitude & it's not often that yo get a chance to roll out your swag( a type of weather proof bed roll ) with another shooter ! It's great when we do though

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Yeah Dave -Thats right! Seems to be a common bond that only hunters/shooters understand.We seem to have the same experiences & likes/dislikes, & chewed the same dirt - if you will.
Thats one of the things I love so much bout the hunt camp.But you'll NEVER get an "anti" to understand !!
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Agreed, But what do you do stay up for hours and type a book?

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Originally posted by Cookie Monster Cookie Monster wrote:

Dave,

Agreed, But what do you do stay up for hours and type a book?

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 One day when I'm too Old to shoot anymore (& the stature of limitations is up on certain incidents ) I intend to sit down & write a Book about the Pro shooting industry in Australia& The Men who I worked with & whom taught me my craft ! AS ours is a dieing art I'm afraid !

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dave h,

Dying art? The sport will only die if we let it. We must keep the next generation interested in the sport.

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What with all the "antis" out there, & protesters like "PETA", & the bleedin heart liberals - that use fabrications for facts in their arguments - it's becoming very difficult indeed, to attract new blood to the sport.
Maybe if we passed an international law that would force "celebrities" (like Bridget Bardot & Bono) to keep they're opinions to themselves - we just MIGHT stand a chance!!
These "protestors" put enough pressure on the Ontario provincial gov't - number of years back - to stop the spring bear hunt.Well that RUINED alot of northern outfitters, & now we got nothin but trouble in the towns, & surrounding areas!!
However, some "poetic justice" was served last summer.(I shouldn't be like this, but its difficult NOT to be!).A retired school teacher - who incidentally was a leader in his area for ending the spring bear hunt, & was of late working with groups to ban hunting altogether, decided to go out in the back of his property (approx 1 hour away from my hunt camp) to pick wild blueberries. Now-if you know bears, you know they take a dim view of folks stealing they're blueberries!!
They found him in several spots, but the blueberries were gone, I understand!!!
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GOOD ON YA DAVE H ,   at home,sick with a cold enjoyed your story!  my grandad started me shooting a .22 at 10years old,in our back yard. had a big butter box full of wet news papers.(and the occasional rat).in the yard,Not the box. at about 14, we had a local HERMIT ,teddy huff, was his name.lived in a shack. had old fish nets and hooks and other wonderful things hung around his place,used to drop off the fish my grandad did not want,and spent a lot of time listning to his tales. at14,that september,old teddy had purchased a 12 gauge single shot shotgun for me to use.that fall,hunting licences be buggered,i became a duck and grouse hunter for teddy. alot of misses but enough hits to keep teddy buying shells.when the snow fell,the big white snowshoe hares had me to worry about
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I don't think The Hunter who hunts as a sport will ever die out as there is too stronger Following ! My concern is For the Proffestional Hunter, who makes his sole income out of hunting .Australia is the last country in the world that reckonises this type of Hunter! I do not include Guides in this as they make their money out of doing just that . I make no secret of the fact that Hunting no longer has any appeal to me ,it's just a case of a way to earn a income ! It can be compared with working in a mobile slaughter house ! Of course it's not many jobs that you meet the Gentleman of the calibre I have been fortuneate to work with over the years ! To say nothing of a craft  that you,become acustomed to if not addicted ! I wandered away for 12mths & just kept my hand in part time but the lure was to great to be ignored & I have returned ! I hope that my Son (who badley wants a start in the trade ) will have the oppertunities I have had ! I've been involved in this game all my life as My Dad before me was a PH ,As was his Father! You blokes will have to excuse me today as I'm a bit down as I had to preform a very upseting task this morning & it's brought me down a little

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Sorry to hear it Dave. Sometimes doing the right thing is hard.
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Thanks for that Ed I had to put down a couple of Family pets of ours & it is not a task that I relise at the best of times ! But it was one of those things that had to be done !

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Hey m8 - I just had to do that last month.Really tugs @ the old heart strings.Puts a real damper on life for a while.
Sorry for your loss, Dave
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