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..Then I'll put it on you, too! Sick around...
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Yeah the gorilla glue is good stuff, but like you say you have to work fairly spedily with it.
I applied it to the surfaces with a q-tip & then brought them together to fill the seam a bit, then I taped it. I'll put a little dark sawdust in clear filler top match the color a bit.
Its more of an experiment for me in reality as I can get replacement used ones that still have the fingers for $22.00
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all i know is that BSA was not makin the mkIII* in 1914 so it was converted in 42 FTR , Value is what you place n it but i see lots to recomend the buy , others have offered far more than i could above , if you got it congrats ,


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Originally posted by A square 10 A square 10 wrote:

all i know is that BSA was not makin the mkIII* in 1914 so it was converted in 42 FTR , Value is what you place n it but i see lots to recomend the buy , others have offered far more than i could above , if you got it congrats ,



I'd agree with you but it doesn't have the receiver slot for the cutoff!Ouch
Everything else could have been swapped out in the FTR, but I doubt they'd fill the slot & re-machine it?
Definitely something odd about this one!
I did fine on the buying price I think.
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Boogered replacement screws are on order, when they arrive I'll detail strip it down & get pics while the wood is de-oiling.
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2 points.
(1) That cocking piece is certainly not 1914 so that looks like it was changed in the FTR.
 
(2) 'Boogered' screws are a sign of shoddy workmanship and whilst not a problem in themselves you are right in stripping and rebuilding.
 
Good luck. It is good to see another one in safe and caring
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This is just a story, it could be folk law. Maybe it will sound familiar to somebody???

Now I will have to dig to find the source of this, but I have a fuzzy memory of about how a batch of Mk.III* rifles was rejected because they were not to pattern. The jist of the story was that BSA implemented some of the manufacturing concessions early before the spec was official. The Govt inspectors rejected the batch only to approve it later.

A 1914 dated receiver rifle could be built in 1915.

No slot in a 1914 rifle is unusual, but there probably will be a simple answer.

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Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

I'm gonna put "Gorilla Glue" on Paddy's T.P. when I go to visit.
That oughta be interesting..


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Originally posted by englishman_ca englishman_ca wrote:

This is just a story, it could be folk law. Maybe it will sound familiar to somebody???

Now I will have to dig to find the source of this, but I have a fuzzy memory of about how a batch of Mk.III* rifles was rejected because they were not to pattern. The jist of the story was that BSA implemented some of the manufacturing concessions early before the spec was official. The Govt inspectors rejected the batch only to approve it later.

A 1914 dated receiver rifle could be built in 1915.

No slot in a 1914 rifle is unusual, but there probably will be a simple answer.

Friggin memory is fading. Wish I knew to whom I lent my Lee Enfield Story book.


If I recalled all the books, all the records and CDs that I loaned out and not got back, I would have a storage problem.


Interesting let me go digging about & see if anything pops up.

Meanwhile I found another incongruity, to the sight this time though.
The "data panel" where the makers info & serial number is usually stamped, on the rear flat face of the arm's vertical shaft & the mount has been scrubbed & sanitized! & there is a stamped, not electro-pencilled South African property mark on both pieces!
I have no way of telling if this is factory, government, or aftermarket work of course but there was a rumor of sales to S/A while they were embargoed. I wonder if this was one of them?
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I did find this, courtesy of the guys over at SRF:

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Yup, that's the fuzzy story that I was trying to recall.
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Odd thing is now it seems my serial # doesn't match the production date?
This is getting stranger the more we dig.
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"..I'd agree with you but it doesn't have the receiver slot for the cutoff!Ouch
Everything else could have been swapped out in the FTR, but I doubt they'd fill the slot & re-machine it?
Definitely something odd about this one!.." 

that combined with simon's post does make it an interesting story , no matter , i think you got a keeper in that one , i like it , 

wonder if it was made as a commercial ? does it have the broad arrow ? - im too lazy tonight to glean through the thread and photos ......its been a long week and only half over ......im tired 

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Its not commercial it has broad arrows & a royal Cypher for King George V.

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So Service rifle competition's in modified class now Shamu? Nice rifle and interesting spec with no cut off etc!

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