Enfield-Rifles.com Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Enfields > After Market Enfields
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Bush carbines
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Bush carbines

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12
Author
Message
ikesdad View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: May 10 2007
Location: Western Slope
Status: Offline
Points: 393
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ikesdad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2014 at 1:29am
That's a tad more than $500 USD at the current exchange rate.
 
That aside, there possibly could be a bit of a market for something similar here, with and without the AR grip & butt.
Pro Deo et Patria
Back to Top
W.R.Buchanan View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: September 21 2014
Location: Ojai CA
Status: Offline
Points: 373
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote W.R.Buchanan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2014 at 3:50pm
I found this pic over at Cast Boolits.  This is a Ishapore .308 that has been Junglized.  Note it has a #4 Buttstock instead of the #5 Pain inducement module.
 
Good looking gun.
 
Randy
It's not how well you do what you know how to do,,, It's how well you do what you DON'T know how to do.
Back to Top
Canuck View Drop Down
Special Member
Special Member
Avatar
Donating Member

Joined: January 17 2012
Location: Agassiz BC
Status: Offline
Points: 3535
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Canuck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2014 at 6:23pm
It IS good looking, I like it and would like one like it!
Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually
Back to Top
Jon287 View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 19 2013
Location: North Carolina
Status: Offline
Points: 367
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jon287 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2014 at 8:54pm
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their planet!!
Back to Top
W.R.Buchanan View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: September 21 2014
Location: Ojai CA
Status: Offline
Points: 373
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote W.R.Buchanan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2014 at 9:44pm
I knew that Gibbs had made guns like this once but I thought they were done. I will see them at the SHOT Show in Vegas in three weeks and find out what the skinny is on these guns.
 
Mean While Boyd's has done a run of Enfield stocks. They are on their website under Enfield Rifles.  just use the normal search function and stay away from the model type function on the left hand side of the home page, it still doesn't work right.
 
The Buttstocks are level comb (Not Monte Carlo) and they have sporter Fore Ends for both #4 and #1 rifles. This was exactly what I was looking for.
 
They are available in several different types of Wood and Laminates.  I got a set of Gray Laminate for my #4 Mk1* Long Branch which I am reboring to .35-303. The standard grade of Walnut was pretty mundane stuff so I went with the Laminate and got heavier wood that is impervious to the weather which is more in keeping with the intended use of the gun. IE Heavy Brush Gun!
 
You can order any kind of wood you want but the cost goes up exponentially as the grade goes up. I thought long and hard before ordering the Gray Laminate as I couldn't justify putting premium wood on this gun as the end value will never be there no matter what, and the extra cost of the wood wouldn't increase the value of the gun any significant amount either.
 
These stocks will give the gun unique look which should be pleasing to the eye and very functional. $65 for the butt and $40 for the fore end.
 
The metal will either be Black Cerakote or Grit Blasted and blued dark.  It should come out looking good, and I am expecting great things from the .35-303 conversion as everyone I have talked to has had nothing but great things to say about JES Reboring.
 
Randy
It's not how well you do what you know how to do,,, It's how well you do what you DON'T know how to do.
Back to Top
A square 10 View Drop Down
Special Member
Special Member
Avatar
Donating Member

Joined: December 12 2006
Location: MN , USA
Status: Offline
Points: 14452
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote A square 10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2014 at 5:37pm
that is a handsome looking rifle , i like the looks of that a lot , congrats - beautiful 
Back to Top
Dazed and Confused View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie


Joined: January 16 2015
Location: nnnnn
Status: Offline
Points: 28
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dazed and Confused Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2015 at 2:46pm
Originally posted by W.R.Buchanan W.R.Buchanan wrote:

I found this pic over at Cast Boolits.  This is a Ishapore .308 that has been Junglized.  Note it has a #4 Buttstock instead of the #5 Pain inducement module.
 
Good looking gun.
 
Randy

This is an Ishapore 2A that's been turned into a "Scout Rifle" in the spirit of Jeff Cooper's articles. Call it a "2A Scout Rifle". 
The butt stock is original RFI issue and came with the rifle. The fore stock is original and was cut to No5 length. So was the barrel. The hand guard is modified No4. 

How do I know?.... It's my rifle.

You can read all about it here
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=380462

You can read about the peep sight here. I made three rear sights.
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=379975

Thank you for the kind comments.
Back to Top
Dazed and Confused View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie


Joined: January 16 2015
Location: nnnnn
Status: Offline
Points: 28
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dazed and Confused Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2015 at 3:06pm
Like W.R. Buchanan I just picked up a No4 Mk1 PH sporter. It has a 22" barrel as well. I've already cut and crowned the barrel. 18.7" just like a No5 carbine. It will be a No5 clone when done.

You can read about how I cut and crowned the barrel here
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=381369



BTW, The name "Jungle Carbine" was a marketing ploy by Golden State Arms. The name was roll stamped on the barrel of converted No1 Mk3 and No.4 rifles. This was due to the fact the original No5 Mk1 was a hot seller.

I have not found the No5 Carbine called "Jungle Carbine" in any literature military or commercial until the 1950's Santa Fe adds by GSA.  
Back to Top
W.R.Buchanan View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: September 21 2014
Location: Ojai CA
Status: Offline
Points: 373
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote W.R.Buchanan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2015 at 11:30am
D&C  That one looks almost identical to what mine looks like. The PH Front Sight with Enfield blade and the profile of the Fore end is identical to yours , only my sight is soldered on crooked,  I do plan on reusing it after I cut the barrel. 
I'm going to .35-303 with mine as well.
 
Randy
It's not how well you do what you know how to do,,, It's how well you do what you DON'T know how to do.
Back to Top
Dazed and Confused View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie


Joined: January 16 2015
Location: nnnnn
Status: Offline
Points: 28
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dazed and Confused Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2015 at 4:44pm
Randy,
Wonder how they got the sight crooked, they're kind of self centering...

.35-303, that's a new one on me. I'll have to look that one up.

Say, where did you see my converted Ishapore at Cast Boolits? I looked over there but didn't see it.
Amazing how photos get around so fast.
Back to Top
W.R.Buchanan View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: September 21 2014
Location: Ojai CA
Status: Offline
Points: 373
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote W.R.Buchanan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2015 at 8:57am
Actually  guy named Art, put it up at Cast Boolits and he found it on the FAL site, as an example of how nice one could look if people only took time to think them thru and spend a few bucks on one. 
 
It is on this thread. http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?263020-No4-MK1-quot-Brush-Gun-quot/page5 There is also some pics of wildcats on the .303 case .375 and .400 cals.
 
 I think that people don't want to spend any money on these guns because they have never been worth that much to begin with. However if a few nice ones show up the values will increase, and just because a custom gun is built on an Enfield action doesn't condemn it to Bubba Land forever. I have seen several custom sporters that were first rate, and as nice as any Mauser sporters I have seen.  There are zillions of these guns made (17 Million) and many that have already been modified to the point where putting them back to Mil Spec is not going to be economically feasible.  Time to come up with some better ideas to utilize these guns, most of which are completely serviceable.
The sight on mine was soldered on the barrel off vertical,,, radially. It either wasn't set up right before soldering, or it slipped during soldering. Either way it is about 5 degrees off vertical.  It has to come off before I cut the barrel anyway, but I do plan of reusing it on this gun.
 
Because your gun is not a true #5 Jungle Carbine but a hybrid it could be classified as "Resto Mod." Similar to a modified 55 Chevy that has undergone restoration but not put back to full stock configuration.
 
This is good for guns in general as it increases interest in all the guns anytime someone shows his work. Other people get ideas and see different possibilities and when they work on their guns and show them , the concept mushrooms and everyone benefits.
 
A lot of the purists have a big problem with this as they cringe everytime someone shows a  modified gun, but what they don't realize is that any interest in these guns ,no matter what the configuration, raises interest in all of these guns, and that increases the value of their guns too.
 
.35-303 is a common Wildcat of the .303 cartridge which is done by simply necking up the .303 round.  It uses bullets from 158gr pistol bullets to 200-250 gr rifle bullets loaded to between 2200 and 2400 fps. It came about as a way of utilizing shot out barrels.  There is also a .338-303 and a more popular .375-303, and 25-303 is also popular. All of these cartridges have been around for Decades, and factory sporting rifles were made in the .375 caliber as it was popular in England and Down Under.
 
A couple of threads here that have pics of the above rounds.
 
Randy
 
 
It's not how well you do what you know how to do,,, It's how well you do what you DON'T know how to do.
Back to Top
Dazed and Confused View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie


Joined: January 16 2015
Location: nnnnn
Status: Offline
Points: 28
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dazed and Confused Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2015 at 10:21pm
Thanks Randy.

I see someone complained about my peep being too far from the eye... It aint any farther than my Daniel Defense sight on my AR, about 6". 
I drilled the aperture out to 1/16" on the Ishapore. It's more of a target sight. I made another one that's threaded for Williams apertures but I like the 1/16" sight better... I really don't have any problem with it, it works for me.

Hey, I like your signature... I came up with something similar years ago when I was complemented on a job I was working on... "If they only knew..." I thought. 

So I came up with this:
"The mark of a true craftsman is not in how well he applies his craft... but.... in how well he hides his mistakes!"  JKB 1986
Back to Top
W.R.Buchanan View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: September 21 2014
Location: Ojai CA
Status: Offline
Points: 373
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote W.R.Buchanan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2015 at 8:48am
JKB:  well put, and completely true. I use this same principal everyday in my shop.
 
Randy
It's not how well you do what you know how to do,,, It's how well you do what you DON'T know how to do.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.04
Copyright ©2001-2021 Web Wiz Ltd.