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    Posted: January 07 2014 at 7:35am
I just picked up a 1944 No. 4 Mk1. Made at ROF Maltby. FTR. No date on the factory repair. Is that unusual? Oddly it is marked as a No. 4 Mk1 and a No.4 Mk1* both. I guess it is just an error. Pre-1968 export "England" mark on top of the chamber. Civilian proof marks on the tip of the barrel in front of the front sight. All sn's match. Typical sport job on the stock. I guess I will clean it good and shoot it a few times before I put it away and collect some furniture for it. I haven't even finished messing up restoring my Longbranch yet! Lets see if I have any luck up loading some pictures.



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These restorable sporters do appear I've brought a few back myself.  I think one reason is the primary users/doers are getting old and either giving up hunting or go something flashier.
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NO - it is not miss-marked , maltby made the no4 mkI - not the mkI* that was only made by longbranch and savage in north america , you have an honest rifle [marked] but it has been sported , so much for conductibility but it may well be a shooter , 

it looks nice - hope you did not do this to a nice collectible surplus arm , but nice to see it in an appreciative persons possession 

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Originally posted by A square 10 A square 10 wrote:

NO - it is not miss-marked , maltby made the no4 mkI - not the mkI* that was only made by longbranch and savage in north america , you have an honest rifle [marked] but it has been sported , so much for conductibility but it may well be a shooter , 

it looks nice - hope you did not do this to a nice collectible surplus arm , but nice to see it in an appreciative persons possession 


A square I am not sure that I understand your comment? If it is not miss-marked than why is it labeled both No 4 Mk1* (appears to be original mark) and No 4 MK1 (no*) appears to have been done at the time of the FTR. Also no, I absolutely did not do the sport job on the stock!
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One quick point, the "England" stamp isn't an export mark, it's an import mark (country of origin) required by the US to bring them into the country.
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OK , now i see what you were asking on the mismark - yes the first marking was an error , the rifle is and always was a mkI [no star] 
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Maltby did produce some No4 Mk1s marked as Mk1* so the marking is "correct"  why they marked them as a Mk1* is unknown.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jon287 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2014 at 5:10am
Originally posted by MaxP MaxP wrote:

One quick point, the "England" stamp isn't an export mark, it's an import mark (country of origin) required by the US to bring them into the country.

Max, thank you for pointing out my mistake. If I get something wrong, please, someone or everyone point out my error. Otherwise I will never learn. Now if someone could just teach me how to pronounce "Fazakerley" I sure would appreciate it!
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Faz-ack-err-lee
http://www.forvo.com/word/fazakerley/
open the link & click on the upper blue arrow. (The second one seems to have laryngitis, possibly from mis-pronouncing "Fazakerley"LOL
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How's this, i live in a city called Wanganui, as you read it some will thing its pronouced Wang as in hang but its not, its wong, but even thats wrong, its actually prononced Hwong but then only to the locals as Wanganui has two ways of spelling it, the other is Whanganui which to non locals is pronounced Fonganui, the two main news channels on TV pronounced it differently, one Hwonganui the other Fonganui.
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OK , that is confusing , but i guess no more so than maltby marking some mkIs as mkI*s , ive never heard a good explanation of how this error was made , it is most deffinetly a mkI rifle , i was aware that they did this , very short lived if i recall correctly , i think not so much an item of collector interest as an interesting character to the rifle , my original answer was given knowing it was a maltby but not really looking closely at the markings in his photo , 
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