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An easy fix for me.
 
I also have occasional trouble with magazine feeding in my No4 Mk I.  I bought a "modern" aftermarket magazine from Midway for about USD $20 and feeding is perfect.  
 
 
 
 
 
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Did you ever get the original working properly?
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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

Did you ever get the original working properly?
 
Sort of, I think.  At least a year ago I adjusted the flanges of the magazine a bit.
 
The problem is intermittent it seems.  The problem is usually with the first round.  After the first round is fed (sometimes with aid of my finger), the rest seem to be okay. 
 
Usually at the range I load a single round at a time. 
 
I need to experiment some more with different bullets and lenghts.  It has been a long while since I have toyed with it.
 
Next time I am at the range I will take some photos of mis-feeds.
 
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I'm a new member as well as a new Lee Enfield owner I've been a small time collector and shooter of mil-surplus rifles for a long time. Got my first M1 carbine in about 1972 

I like to jump in here on this feeding problems thread.
My new rifle is a No5Mk1 9/1946 ROF(F). It has cleaned up very nicely. (no bubbaing, just cleaning). It is surprisingly accurate with my reloads. (314299 WW over 18.4g of 2400 in Rem cases with CCI#200 and COL of 2.930)
The original magazine did not feed cases at all. The spring seems weak and the magazine box appears to be bent not allowing the follower to glide the cartridges up correctly.
I ordered a new No4 magazine from Springfield Sporters. It appears to be new unissued and was covered in cosmoline. After a serious US cleaning it replaced it's predecessor. Now I have a new feeding problem. To get the cartridge to present to the bolt for insertion I need to bump the base of the magazine with a sturdy thump via the palm of my hand.

Suggestions please! Will a new spring fix it?

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It is going to depend a little on how the cases are currently sitting. If the case rim is tight up against the curved rear feed lips then no, it won't make any difference. If they're sitting a little low then yes it might.
 
Heres a couple of pics of my magazine which feeds fine to give you a comparison.
 
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Hi!
 
my both Enfields would not feed round nose cartridges with the shortened hunters conversion magazines and rounds which were a bit short. I´ve purchased a new remake magazine at Midways, and my Long Branch would feed any round now properly. My Parker Hale would not work with the new magazine at all, but it feeds spitzer rounds quite well with the original, but I am still not satisfied.
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Gentlemen I very much appreciate the responses and especially the photos. I found that the magazines requires and auxiliary spring which one of the photos shows the lip hanging over the edge. I've ordered 2 to these springs.
The photos help me adjust to lips on both my magazine so they feed much better now.

Thank you for taking the time and energy to post your responses to a newbie Lee Enfield owner. This rifle is very exciting and a real joy to shoot. It is due to my reduced loads of 2400 and the 314299 cast bullet pretty easy on my old shoulder (think blood thinners) but doing a fine job on targets. The REPORT however is astounding!

Again Thank You!
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The spring is a bit of a mystery in all honesty.
Years back I had one break at the "U" bend, so I tried shooting without it & it worked perfectly! Over time I've heard many reasons for the spring, but none of them seemed really convincing to me. It won't hurt & it does make the magazine "correct" so no harm done.
 
The Enfield mag with the "tab" type front lips is pretty sensitive to bullet shape & seating depth. If you look at the "up the nose shot" of my mag from eartlier you can see that just the left (upper) round is contacting the front, the right,( lower) bullet is clear by about 1/8".
The trick is to mark the feed ramp with something that wears easily, like engineers blue, smoke smudge or sharpie dye & feed a few rounds. There should be a distinct  "^-shape" scraped out of the mark starting about 2/3 of the way down the ramp. If you have a good feeding rifle take a look at the ramp, you may actually have a shiny polished "^" to compare. Now you can (carefully ) mess with the feel lips in very small steps to get the "^" from your particular bullet configuration. Its really about presentation to the ramp, not looking the same in the magazine.
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So the Lyman mold 314299 bullet seating to the top of the top lube groove there is also about 3/16 inch between the tip and the magazine.
After several tweaking adjustments it's now feeding flawlessly.

This No5 is way to much fun to play with and shoot.
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Excellent news!
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The auxiliary spring is important as it helps maintain the angle of the follower by giving it a smooth hard surface to slide up on, as the rifle is fired, the rounds in the mag will fly forward impacting the front of the magazine & if there is only the soft metal of the mag case to absorb the impact over a period of time small dents will appear in the front wall which will eventually cause the rounds to snag & hold up the follower, plus any contact of the point of a round being in contact with the rough interior of the case will also produce drag which will also cause the follower to hang-up.
The auxiliary spring is made of spring steel & therefor eliminates these problems & if it was not important & served no purpose, it would not be there.
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I had this same problem what I did was to pull the extractor spring out And reduced the tension by squeezing it down with a pair of needle nose pliers I only had to squeeze it down a little and after doing that no more loading issues, before it was very had to load a round hope this helps
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