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    Posted: November 15 2006 at 1:31pm
New to the group. Glad I found this place!
Last week I purchased my first Enfield (Savage mfg) rifle, No 4 MK1.
It does not have the complete wooden shroud like most Enfields I see on the net, but I'm guessing it has something to do with this one being produced by Savage. I guess you could call it a sporter model. It is marked US Property.
Wondering if anyone can give me a history lesson on my particular rifle.
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another pic
also forgot to mention it was manufactured in 1943
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i have a 1943 savage no.4 mk1, well actually it is may dads, i aint old enough yet to own it but he considers it mine

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It's been sporterized.  Looks like a professional job.    That said the No.4 is a good sturdy action that will serve you well.  Savage Arms built a number of rifles during WWII for Great Britian.  I see it has the "L" type sights in the reare.  These are sighted in for 300 and 600 yards.  Though with it being sporterized I can't say for sure. 
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Definatly a Sporter ! I might add a very good job ! It has a high Comb on the stock which makes it really scope friendly ! Be a great Hunting rifle


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esoxhunter The were several comapnies back when the took Enfields and sporterized them.  Iwas told told shortly after WWII they could be had on the surplus market for $3 each.  Damn I wish I would have been alive then.

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The Savage rifles looked just like all the others, this one was modified later. Are there any other stampings on the barrel or action? It looks like it might be by a company called golden state rifle that did a lot of conversions.
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Originally posted by shotgunminister shotgunminister wrote:

esoxhunter The were several comapnies back when the took Enfields and sporterized them.  Iwas told told shortly after WWII they could be had on the surplus market for $3 each.  Damn I wish I would have been alive then.



I remember when I was a tad younger...Barrels of Enfields out on Young St in Toronto & St.Paul St. in St.Catharines(in front of Mosher's store)with a sign saying "YOUR CHOICE-$20.00
Ahh - for the good old days!
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3 Bucks each! You were had. My dad used to buy them a crate at a time for 8 pounds a crate.

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The "US PROPERTY" stampage was a makeshift appeasement to accomodate some shipping regulation. 
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No, It was to satisfy the lend lease agreement between U.S and Britain.
When Britain was basically broke the U.S made equipment and gave it to Britain. The repayment was to come when she was back on her feet and was paid off over a very long time period. I seem to recall reading somewhere that the debt will be paid off in full by 31/12/2006.
By the way that is a nice looking rifle. Hope it shoots as good as it looks. 
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Originally posted by Lithgow Lithgow wrote:

3 Bucks each! You were had. My dad used to buy them a crate at a time for 8 pounds a crate.

 
8 pounds equals 128 ounces.  Big%20smile  Actualy $15.18 US Dollars
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AHA!!! see? $20.00 CDN (in those days!)
Thanx SGM.
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That was for 8 rifles!
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now now children!! play nice now      LOL
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Originally posted by allan allan wrote:

now now children!! play nice now      LOL


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