A rare british M1907 bayonet |
Post Reply | Page 12> |
Author | ||
oxi81
Newbie Joined: August 09 2010 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 7 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Posted: August 09 2010 at 5:48am |
|
Hello
I am glad to share my latest find with you. A M1907 hooked bayonet. Made in 1909 by Wilkinson. This hookie shows a regimental marking on the pommel : I.BRK 63 Was told that this marking means 1st battalion of Princess of Charlotte of Wales Royal Berkshire Regiment. Weapon #63. But I don't really know. Now, I need to find a MK1 scabbard (the same that common MK2, but with a leather tip instead of steel tip). The most interesting marking is the crowned "ER". It means "Edward Rex". King Edward VII died in 1910 and all bayonets made in 1910 and after wear a crowned "GR" marking ("George Rex" for King George V who reigned till 1936). Francois |
||
Cookie Monster
Special Member Joined: January 22 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7510 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
Very nice piece of Cutlery
|
||
LE Owner
Senior Member Joined: December 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1047 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
I'm watching a recent Sci Fi movie right now, titled Mutant Chronicles.
The main sci fi weaponry is unrealistic but there are many SMLE rifles used as well, and I spotted several Hooked Quillon bayonets in the early scenes.
Cast resin replica guns ans bayonets are common enough, but it could be that a few collectors items still reside in movie prop store rooms.
|
||
A square 10
Special Member Donating Member Joined: December 12 2006 Location: MN , USA Status: Offline Points: 14452 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
now that is a fine looking hookie - where did you happen across that one ?
mine is a 1910 mole , had found a correct scabbard but the deal never came together so im using an early one with the almond shaped button , good luck on your search , has a canceled set of regimental markings - (cant read first two letters well) possibly RDF / 501 also lined out , 'Royal Dublin Fusiliers' ? then a second set 15 / RIR / 53 ..... not sure what this is 'Royal Irish Rangers' possibly ? she resides with my 1915 BSA mkIII , and also ahown with the japanese inspiration for the design |
||
LE Owner
Senior Member Joined: December 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1047 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
Many years ago I repaired the badly broken stock of a WW2 battlefield pickup Arisaka that a veteran had left to his son. The rifle still had its bayonet and scabard with it. It was the hooked quillon type. I'd assumed the Japanese had copied theirs from the British.
Though when it comes to details of blades and fittings all premutations have already been tried at some point in history.
PS
Thought I'd seen the Hooked Quillon before on a much older rifle.
The Hooked Quillon was a feature of the 1874 LeGras Sword Bayonet.
Some US Civil War and British Sword Bayonets of the 1860s have a prominent quillon ,but these were not drawn to a hook, likely because cast brass handles were most common and brass wouldn't have been suitable for capturing a steel blade.
|
||
No4Enfield
Senior Member Joined: January 19 2008 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 336 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
Thats cool!
|
||
oxi81
Newbie Joined: August 09 2010 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 7 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
Very fine 1910 quillon bayonet. RDF : The Royal Dublin Fusiliers (Royal Madras Fusiliers) RIR : The Royal Irish Rifles (2nd Battalion Royal Ulster Rifles) Found on this excellent site : http://www.radix.net/~bbrown/brit_bayo.html#regimentals Francois |
||
finloq
Groupie Joined: May 01 2010 Location: SoCal Status: Offline Points: 14 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
Under : British Regimental Markings from the afore mentioned sight: http://www.radix.net/~bbrown/brit_bayo.html#regimentals
|
||
"Self-realization. I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, "... I drank what?"
|
||
oxi81
Newbie Joined: August 09 2010 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 7 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
Tony
Moderator Group Moderator Joined: April 18 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3256 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
At a guess I would say it's the shaft of an entrenching tool.
|
||
Rottie (PitBulls dad.)
“If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons Born free taxed to death!!! |
||
A square 10
Special Member Donating Member Joined: December 12 2006 Location: MN , USA Status: Offline Points: 14452 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
most definetly the handle for the entrenching tool the metal head section is in the bag hanging from the rear of the belt ,
the set i have is a later version that takes a no4 spike for mine probing but the rest of the bits are similar , |
||
oxi81
Newbie Joined: August 09 2010 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 7 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
Thank you for this info, and for sharing this very nice british rack picture... ;)
Francois
|
||
A square 10
Special Member Donating Member Joined: December 12 2006 Location: MN , USA Status: Offline Points: 14452 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
you are most welcome , i seldom get to share anymore , and i miss the days of discussing the accoutrements as well as the rifles/handguns
|
||
RadioHack
Newbie Joined: December 06 2010 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 3 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
It actually means "Regina" Latin for Reign, as in the Reign of Edward or in the case of our
current Sovreign "ER" Elizabeth Regina.
|
||
oxi81
Newbie Joined: August 09 2010 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 7 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
I thought like you about Regina and not Rex translation. But on another forum, I was told by your compatriots that this marking means Rex as king Edward VII was a men... Have a look here : http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?101165-A-rare-british-P1907-bayonet. Maybe we can get a confirmation from an english member.... Francois |
||
RadioHack
Newbie Joined: December 06 2010 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 3 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|
They are correct! My apologies, I have my Latin genders incorrect, I was always rubbish at Latin, just enough to get through mass as an alltar boy. |
||
Post Reply | Page 12> |
Tweet
|
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |