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daneko
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Posted: April 21 2012 at 9:45am |
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saw a really nice no 5 today almost to nice . it had the numbers stamped"""" on the left of the reciever. I thought all no5s were scribed..its serial number is AC 3xx mk 11 F. can anyone clear this up for me...thanks Dane
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Alan de Enfield
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There is another thread going on about a No5 Mk2 - have a look at thet.
It could be that you have a veeeeeery rare beast or it could be a 'gunsmith special' please get some pics so we can see what it all about. The No5 Mk1 rifle had, however, one big fault : it was not easy to keep correctly sighted, and suffered from what was known as “wandering Zero”. This was a serious defect and many attempts were made to eradicate t. Trials were carried out with different forms of stocking up and a Mk2 pattern was eventually developed, with which further trials carried out in 1945 and 1946. In the new pattern the stock fore-end and hand-guard were extended to within about ½” of the rear of the flash eliminator, and the rear end of the fore-end was strengthened buy a screw and nut. The band was positioned about three inches further forward to secure the lengthened fore-end and butt. The Mk2 never went into production, and it was eventually decided that the cause of the “wandering zero” was inherent in the design of the weapon and not the result of movement of unseasoned woodwork as had been suspected. The decision not to retain the No5 rifle in British service was made in July 1947 and it was declared obsolescent. From : “The Lee Enfield Rifle” by Major EGB Reynolds. |
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Alan de Enfield
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ACxxx is a Fazakerley serial number dating to the last quarter 1947 (possibly October) - however it should be a 4 digit number - not a 3 digit number.
Just a thought - is it possible that the No5 Mk11F is actually : No5 Mk1(F) ? (Maybe a poorly marked 'bracket' that looks like a 1)
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daneko
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Ok, I bought it,, the correct serial number is.9/47 mk 1 F AC 370 it is in like new condition, all numbers[except mag] match. stock has some minor nicks and bruises. barrel is pristine, bolt face is like new, no marks or brass stains. ramp looks like a few rounds have been chambered. may go out and fire it later..no way I could claim unfired anyway..all in all another happy enfield owner.[shh don't tell anyone how neat these are]...thanks for the input guys..Dane......
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White Rhino
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Sounds like a great deal !!! post some pictures !!!
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A square 10
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i need to see a lot of photos and they need to be detailed , its a real interesting cooincidence that two individuals claim to have found an item that was produced in a very tiny quantity and never issued , not even recognized as a real rifle , if they both [of is it one ?] found one of these at the same time .............
too big of a cooincidence me thinks ,
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Shamu
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"9/47 mk 1 F AC 370 "
Should translate to: (made in)September 1947, Mark one ,(at the) Fazackerly (factory), serial # AC370 So the stamp says it's a Mk 1, how are we figuring its a Mk 2 when it says Mk 1 right on it? I'm confused. |
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daneko
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When I found this carbine at a gun show, I read and wrote down the serial numbers wrong, [didn't have my glasses .If you read my second post. I reported the right number..I am not a computor wiz, so need to have my kids post some photos, for the skeptics. Dane
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he posted it - thats all , AC prefix is definetly a 47 rifle
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Ansa
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I have pretty much the same rifle, Except mine is rather butchered, nonetheless I still love it.
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Cookie Monster
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I concur
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John Sukey
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People are wider than bullseyes. The principal reason why the No5 was scrapped was the MOD deciding to equip the entire army with them at the time most armies were equipped, or being equipped with self-loading rifles. The No5 made lots of good japs without a problem
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5thBatt
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Fazakerley used up-to a 4 digit serial number, i have seen s/n Y40 & i have s/n 524
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Alan de Enfield
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I quite agree but on another forum there is a serial number list of Faz No5s and for 1947 there are 39 examples shown (from 1/47 to 12/47) and all are 4 digit numbers. The AB prefix end 9/47 and the AC prefix start 9/47. So yes - 3 digits is possible but no example has been reported.
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5thBatt
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This list??
Z14XX - 1/47
Z2060 - 1/47
Z2999 - 1/47
Z221X - 1/47
Z4535 - 1/47
Z7XXX - 3/47
Z7444 - 9/47
Z9796 - 3/47
Z9823 - 3/47
AA23XX - 4/47
AA492X - 5/47
AA5628 - 5/47
AA6105 - 5/47
AA6370 - 5/47
AA90XX - 6/47
AB14XX - 6/47
AB1627 - 6/47
AB4523 - 7/47
AB67XX - 9/47 AB7553 - 8/47 AB9075 - 9/47
AB9739 - 9/47 AC75X - ?/47
AC1326 - 9/47
AC1330 - 9/47 AC1454 - 9/47
AC2268 - 9/47
AC2538 - 10/47
AC3208 - 10/47
AC34XX - 10/47
AC4XX - 9/47
AC44XX - ?/?
AC2538 - 10/47
AC2558 - 10/47 AC31XX -10/47
AC5560 -10/47
AC6165 - 12/47
AC6226 - 8/47
AC6252 - 12/47
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daneko
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not the best pic , hope you all can read it.Dane
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