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The Rattler
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 3:37pm |
I own a Lee Enfield No. 1 Mark III* SMLE. I bought a device to help me sight it in for the windage adjustments on the front sight. Here is the device: http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/255950.htm.
My problem is that I can't figure out how to use it. After looking at a video for older guns, it appears that this is supposed to fit on the gun an stay there while sighting it in. I don't think this device fits my gun to do that. The video I saw was verbal explanation and did not show how it actually fits on the gun. Is this the correct device for my gun? Do any of you know of a video that demonstrates how to use it? This gun is sporterized and does not have the protective cover on the front sight. Any and all input will be appreciated. |
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The Rattler
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If it is pertinent, this gun was made in Litgow in 1941.
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A square 10
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this is a device intended to "drift" the front sight right or left , its not to be left in place while sighting in - you use it to move the sight only , then test fire , then move more if required , test again ,
you move the sight right to move the bullet point of impact left and vice versa , if you make adjustments at 25 or 50 they will be compounded at 100 -200 and so on , be very gentle and take it slow , make this an adventure, something to savor , when its done rest your mind - you now know the misses are all operator error ,
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musketjon
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Unfortunately, you need to remove the nose cap assembly to use that tool.
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hoadie
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I have a sight adjuster for my RIFLE.
It looks somewhat different than the one shown. ..& NO - you should leave it on the RIFLE when your shooting. I have two RIFLES that are #1 MkIII* (both 1916) |
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Shamu
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Maybe I'm nutz but that looks like the front sight tool for a No4 not a No1?
If yours was sporterized as you suggest that may be a problem as the tool is set up for military configuration. What you do is fire a small group, calculate the center of that group then attach the tool & make a drift correction with the 2 cross screws. there's a table of how far to turn for a specific movement distance. Then you remove the "cramp" shoot another to confirm & readjust as needed. Once set you'd normally stake the blade in the cross groove to lock it. http://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=456-Fore-Sight-Adjusting-Cramps-(by-Graeme-broadarrow303-Barber) |
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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It is for an SMLE not a No4 and the type the OP needs for his MkIII Lithgow. This design can only be used with the nisecap removed, but obviously that's not an issue for you, your rifle being a sporter.
Just for readers interest, there is another design that doesn't require the nosecap to be removed. It's not as easy to determine the exact amount of movement as the tool pictured in this thread, but I found it a much better option to not have to remove the nosecap. Problem is, they are extremely hard to find. |
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hoadie
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gentlemen:
To easily solve the issue (& get a clean, professional looking tool) go to: buchananprec@roadrunner.com, or call: 805-340-2701(Ojai Californ-i-a), talk to Randy. You can thank me later |
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The Rattler
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Thanks for these replies and your willingness to help.
1. Does anyone have a pic that can be posted showing how this device fits on the "horizontal blade" to move it? It seems most awkward in getting the 2 screws to both impact the "horizontal blade or the sight." It seems that I need 3 hands to do so. 2. I don't understand that once the 2 screws are impacting the "horizontal blade" how tightening one screw will move it. it seems like as you screw one of side to move the sight, the screw on the opposite side would prevent the sight from moving. In other words, if you are tightening the right screw to move the sight to the left, the left screw that is impacting the left side of the sight will prevent the sight from moving. Surely, I am missing something here. 3. Are there other devices available that would be easier for me to use on this sportarized rifle? Hoodie, does the company you cited have such device? 4. Would it be better for me to use a hammer, or a hammer and a punch to move the sight? I know its not precise, but at least that method is easier to understand. Nevertheless, my preference would be to use a device capable of a degree of precision. Thanks again for the help. |
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The Rattler
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Sorry for the double post. This is deleting it.
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Shamu
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The Idea is to clamp to the blade's base then loosen on the side you move to & tighten the one on the other side to actually move to the stop. |
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I have the #5 tool and once installed it is easy to see how to use it. No longer have a #5 but it's much the same for each rifle type. Also I use 100 yards as my standard starting range.
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I need one of those #5 front sight adjustment tools.
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The Rattler
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I appreciate all of your replies which are most helpful. I believe that just about everybody who replied previously helped me at one time or another in the past. What a most beneficial Forum this is.
Shamu, your pic and description answer a whole lot of my questions. Thanks for getting so basic that someone like me, with limited experience, can understand.
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Shamu
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Glad we could help. One thing to remember the No of the adjusting cramp is NOT matching to the rifle's No or Mark except for the No1.
The No4 rifle takes a No3 cramp & the No5 rifle takes a No4 one. (If that don't confuze the dreaded Fuzzy-Wuzzies nuffin' will.) |
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The Rattler
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Do I understand you to say that I need another sighting tool for my specific rifle? Or, is this just a general rule for all sighting tools of this design?
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