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Honkytonk
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Posted: January 22 2018 at 8:58am |
I realize it isn't an Enfield, but has anyone ever fired a Ross? 20 yrs ago a buddy picked one up and wanted me to clean it. It seemed straight forward and the bolt was kinda cool. Took me forever to put the bolt back in! Even when I thought is was in proper, I told him to take it to an old expert out of town to confirm he wouldn't be wearing the bolt in his eye when he fired it!
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paddyofurniture
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I have a Ross and it is a blast to shoot.
My P'pere carried a Ross when he sent over sea in 1914. My Ross is US marked and is EC so my brass is not reloadable. My sons like to hand to someone when we are out shooting when we are out shoot. It is really funny to see someone try to reload. |
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Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.
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Bear43
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I have never even seen one in person. Would love to some day.
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terrylee
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Mk.III & Mk.III B
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hoadie
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As I have said before..& I have forwarded articles on the Ross to folks in this forum:
FIRE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK! & in my opinion, you would have to be at the least negligent - or at the most - NUTZ, to let someone you care about shoot it!! I don't care what "other" information you've heard..IT ONLY TAKES ONCE, & you , or someone else has to live with the consequences. (I'd like a Ross too - but I would never fire it.) |
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terrylee
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The Mk.III works just fine and is very accurate. Anyone who fires one with a wrongly assembled bolt qualifies for a Darwin Award!
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SW28fan
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This is an excellent Video about the Ross Bolt Problem:
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Zed
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Interesting video. Thanks for posting it.
Think I'll be sticking with my Lee Enfields! |
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hoadie
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THAT particular bolt may not have left the rifle..but I spoke with vetereans who said that they DID. One in particular described to me how the guy on the platform next to him died when one flew into his face while training in Niagara On The Lake, prior to being shipped out.
He also said it was an accurate rifle - but its hard to be accurate, when you roll your head left every time you shoot. There was also an enquiry into the Ross, as the gov't was seeking to imprison those responsible. So, as for shooting the Ross..your on your own |
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terrylee
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Much as I enjoy shooting my Ross Mk.III, I have to admit that it has/had serious defects which undermined its performance as a military rifle. It is better considered a precision target rifle. For a start, it saw active service too soon, before certain of its problems could be corrected. The earlier Mk.II would probably have been more successful.
However much corrected, I do not think that the Mk.III would have ever made the grade as a standard infantry rifle. Too heavy and cumbersome for trench warfare and of a precise machining which was oversensitive to faulty ammunition, ignorance and the mud of the trenches. |
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SW28fan
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Here s a longer Video on the History of the Ross Rifle and its politics:
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Canuck
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The only ones I have seen are at gun shows and at the War Museum in Ottawa. I think they are a neat piece of Canadian history but....I'll stick to my Lee Enfields please and thank you!
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hoadie
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The old vet that told me (1st hand) about the Ross's shortcomings, said his was exchanged after a time in the European trenches.
But his web gear was left right on the dock, & they were issued proper British web gear. I was told guy that used my Vimy Vet (whom I never met) was relieved of his Ross the minute they got to Blighty.They were issued new Enfields and shipped over to the front, with little to no training on them. |
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terrylee
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The upper of the two Rosses in my photo, the Mk.III, has an interesting history. Its markings confirm that it was one of those recalled from the Canadians and reissued to the Royal Navy. In this case to HMS Canada which was previously the expropriated Almirante Latorre being built for Chile. After the war the battleship was returned to Chile complete with its stock of Rosses. They were marked with Chilean markings and appear to have remained in the ship until it was scrapped in the early 1960s. Eventually they were bought by a Canadian company from whom I obtained my rifle with matching numbered bayonet.
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SW28fan
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Kind of a Moot point for me Ross Rifles are ass rare as rocking horse poop where I live. I have seen one for sale and it was $1800 US. If I were to spend that much on a rifle there are many other things I want
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i had wanted one once , just as an accumulator add to my assortment , but i never found one that was reasonable for what was going to be a wall hanger ,
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