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RiflePlumber
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Posted: December 27 2016 at 11:43pm |
I've had a Lithgow No1 MkIII* for about 20 years, so I was excited to start deciphering the markings on these when I found them this week. My guess is at least one, if not all, are Khyber Pass rifles, but I plan to continue doing research on what markings are visible now that I have found this site. I may also clean them up and build an electrolysis tank, here, to help out with that. I'm interested in any glaring observations you, the experts, may have before I get a chance to get into some real research on them. Thanks.
Rifle 1: Rifle 2: Rifle 3: Rifle 4: |
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hoadie
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gonna have your hands full on these
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Loose wimmen tightened here
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Zed
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Looking at the poor quality of the wrist stamps; letters inverted etc. I'd say you are correct in your assumption that these are Khyber Pass copies. However it will be fun cleaning them up; even if it's just to hang on the wall!
I was wondering if the Khyber Pass copies have some original parts; maybe from broken original rifles! Just a thought; as I have no personal experience of them. |
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Zormpas
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Those look rode hard and put away wet! There's an interesting story there somewhere...
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RiflePlumber
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Some of the other, non-Enfield firearms are in a good bit better shape. I have a Russian DP28 from the '20s that should still fire, and has no rust.
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most definitely kyber pass rifles from what i see , they are "one of a kind" and will never be found again so in many ways worth preservation as a "one off" as it were , if i had become so well invested in enfields as to need these - i would jump on those ,
so many bought and sold-traded-gifted , i could have been there short of owning a lithgow and a paki no 4 , i do not look back only forward - you need to enjoy what you have in this lifetime , congrats ,
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RiflePlumber
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Edited to add fourth rifle I had forgotten about.
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Pukka Bundook
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My hat is always off to blokes who can sit on the ground with a file and turn out something like this! Yes, we know they are not safe to fire usually, but they made these with hand tools, and although many disparage the makers, (Not here I note) I think they showed real skill in how close they got them to the real deal.
To appreciate how much work went into these, we should all sit down at home with a hacksaw and a file, & maybe a big hammer, and see how long it took us to make something that looks this close. :-) Must say though, they look as though they'd been buried in the camel bedding for a decade or 6! Richard.
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White Rhino
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Pukka Bundook , I have seen an AK made in one of them caves in the Kyber pass area !!! via video. Primitive tools, hammer, a piece of rail road iron to use as an anvil !! a mud brick forge, scraps of metal picked up here and there !!!
If those same guys would have access to modern equipment and better metal , just think of the treasures they could make !!!! Seen the same thing personally in Turkey, but the guy was working in bronze and copper making trinkets to sell in the Bazaar in Istanbul ! not as intricate or as interesting as a rifle , but still nice work !! most of his brass was from our spent casings !! Man the kid that gathered the brass was pissed off that the 25 mm cases were steel ! LOL!!! but the .50 cal. , 7.62x51 and 5.56mm was brass !!!! LOL!! when we would shoot the .50 cal. that kid would run for the brass... we would let him get down the defensive positions a ways and then pop off a 3 to 9 round burst and watch him run back !!! |
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