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jonasbjo
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Posted: February 08 2018 at 10:21am |
Hey guys, new to this forum and lee enfield rifles. I have recently bought a 1917 no1 mk3, and i am looking for info on it! The guy i bought it from had himself bought it in canada in the 1960s. He hadn't done anything with it himself, so it is in the same state as when he got it. Basically tell me everything you can from the markings that are on it. What they mean etc. Posting pictures below.What i am wondering in particular, is why some rifles with the exact same designation (BSA Sht L.E 1917 no1 mk3) have full wooden stocks, 10 round mags and "round" bolts (the rear part of the bolt is round instead of flat as on the no4), while some, like mine, have shorter stocks, flat bolts and a 6 round mag? What does it say on the front sights? "Perkenbale"? Are those original? The bolt doesnt have the same number as the receiver, so it's obviously not original, but is it the same type of bolt that were standard issue on these? As for the hole in the side of the stock and the magazine, that was a law that came (and disappeared a year later) in norway in the late sixties stating that you couldnt have more than one round available when hunting reindeer. So you had to drill a hole and put a wire or something through. A shame, but thats how it was. Receiver also has holes for a scope mount on it. |
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Shamu
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Your rifle has been "sporterised", its had the wood & possibly metal cut away to make it look & feel more like a "RemChester" sporting rifle.
It has also been drilled & tapped for a scope mount of some kind. It was a popular thing to do a while back, but it drastically reduces value nowadays. The front sight ramp & hood has been replaced by a "Parker-Hale" commercial one for the same reason. I have no idea if it will shoot to point of aim, check it out @ 25 yds before you do anything serious with it. |
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Honkytonk
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Wow. New to forum? How did you figure out posting pics?! (Nice sporter! Hope it shoots well for you!)
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A square 10
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looks like a very nice 1917 mkIII* rifle wearing an excellent older mkIII rear sight [i want it ] its been sported [maybe a parker hale] by shortening and the hunting magazine looks like a five round to me , and that front sight , i see some minor damage but nothing to worry over i think ,
been D&T'd for scope blocks on the top of the knox form and charger bridge , not at all sure what might have been once mounted or how well it might have worked , i dit a mont on a cooey trainer using the available factory screws and it worked great - but that was a 22lr this is a 303 lot more recoil , enjoy her she looks very nice ,
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hoadie
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If your a hunter, you will like the way it handles, & the results you get.
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Loose wimmen tightened here
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Zed
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It's a shame that the bolt number is not the same as the receiver. These were built as a matched pair; so a mismatched bolt could potentially be a problem if it's not properly contacting the recoil surfaces. Worth checking if you want to use it.
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jonasbjo
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I was thinking it might be a 6 round mag because the cavalry carbines from the late 1890s had 6 round mags, and this looked like one of those. It says made in japan on it for what its worth.
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A square 10
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its a santa fe mag , used on the sported enfields by that company ,
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