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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote terrylee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2018 at 10:45pm
The .280 Ross: another fine rifle.  Britrifles, if we were in the same country, I'd take you up on your offer.


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During my time as a Firearms Dealer I had a .280 Ross by Gibbs. A beautiful rifle but I daren't shhot it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hoadie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2018 at 1:32pm
My latest Legion magazine also makes a brief mention of the Ross, once again. (The statement also mentions the poor quality of the clothes & webbing):

" ..men of the 1st contingent waited for uniforms to arrive. Hurriedly made by contractors chosen by Minister of Militia Sam Hughes, the uniforms had their flaws. Boots seemed to be made of paper & would fall apart in England's wet weather.
..The load bearing equipment - designed by J.W.Oliver, was an awkward, uncomfortable jumble of belts & pouches. British webbing soon replaced it.
...Weapons assigned to Canadians at the start of the war were less than perfect. The soldiers received the ROSS rifle - a fine target shooting weapon but one that jammed in field conditions. The Lee - Enfield replaced it."
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote A square 10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2018 at 9:35pm
i wish i had bought the ross rifles i had options on back in the day , i only hesitated because of the rumers of difficulty disassemble/reassemble and dangers when not assembled correctly , i saw it as a safety issue i might not wish to own , i kick myself for not being a bit more daring at the time , 

i am sorry if some of you have limits on what you get to shoot and when , this always upsets me because i believe we are all capable and able to pick and choose the times and conditions when it is safe , i also believe we are equally safe in our ownership , which is none of any of our governments pervue to control , at least not mine - we have a constitution that guarantees my "GOD GIVEN RIGHTS" 

i shoot all my rifles and handguns , these days im going to shoot them more , ill be darned if anyone will take my second amendment rights away from me till the brass is cold as well as my hand , 
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I suspect the infamous status of the Ross grew over time. There are lots of things that will kill you if you don’t follow directions. My Dad shot his Ross rifles, and if he still had them, I’d be shooting them, after I verified the bolt was assembled correctly.

I remember as a kid being fascinated how the bolt turned with a straight push/pull of the bolt handle. Must have been a fast action to work. I didn’t get real interested in shooting until he has sold over half of his collection. I shudder thinking about the ridiculous low prices he sold those rifles for in the early 1990s, and how they slipped thru my fingers.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Macd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2018 at 12:03pm
Part of the Ross problem was the ammunition.  Even when clean the rather broad variation in case sizes in the .303 rounds being produced by the millions worked okay in the generous chamber of the LE but too often just jammed in the Ross.  Not having the caming action of a turn bolt didn't help.  I have a K31 which is also straight pull and experienced the problem when using some neck sized rounds from a Model 11 rifle.

With respect to the bolt in the face issue.  Watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaSui_UqDX8
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To be honest, I've been unfair to the Ross. It was one of those weapons that was a head of it's time, and design features (plus mass produced ammo) meant it didn't have a chance in WW1 among the muck, mire, and horror of trench warfare. It was shelved because of the robust, dependable Lee Enfield. After the war, it was so overshadowed as a battle rifle, despite it's accuracy, it went the way of the dinosaurs. I also agree with the statement of if a knowledgeable person on this weapon assembles it, it would be a safe rifle. Again, not ideal for combat situations. But as a Canadian, I can respect the Ross.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote britrifles Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2018 at 12:50pm
Honkytonk, I think that’s a fair and objective assessment.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SW28fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2018 at 1:37pm
It is almost an Hour long but really covers the Ross and it problems:
 
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I have a US marked Ross rifle and bayonet.

Still shoot it with light hand loads.

What a rifle.

My Grandfather was issued one in 1914 for the trip over the pond.
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