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    Posted: January 06 2015 at 7:11pm
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I am trying to find information on the pajama style woollen long johns that were part of the winter uniform during the last part of the Korean actions

I have only ever seen one pair and that was at the War Museum in Canberra Australia. None of the people I have ever know who were in Korea had been issued thses or knew anything about them, I was told that the Aussies got issued extra American gear when they started to freeze to death in the foxholes [ personal communication from an old and angry veteran] and that they stole as much extra clothing as the could up to and including cutting up blankets for poncho style pull-overs.
My recollection is of a loosely woven or knitted garment that buttoned to the braces buttons of the old serge BD pants and was then worn over the issue longjohns
Any information on these would be appreciated
I just bought a pair of 1950s vintage BD [ my issue ons sadly nolong fit around my enlarged waist but I was only 17 so I think that's fair enough] and I am thinking of taking them to Canada for a winters camp out and want to make my own woollen or wool blend liners
I thank you all in advance for sharing your knowledge
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tony Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2015 at 11:05am
I think you'll struggle to get any long johns in wool these days most of them seem to be synthetic material. Try ebay there may be someone selling winter gear on there who has or can get hold of the woolies.
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Not quite what you're asking for but take a look at the "Bear suit" from US ECWS system.
I have the ECWS system gen 1 kit & I've camped out in snow in it very comfortably.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Cold_Weather_Clothing_System
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I had some K/W vintage pant liners. used them for hunting on extreme cold days. But..the gang put my stuff out in the garage this fall, during renovations @ the cabin. Guess where the mice decided was a good place to reside?
All I got from that was a" oops,sorry bout that"
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Hoadie, how does one hunt with pant liners? Do you suffocate the animal with them or do you just pull down the flap and show them the full moon and drop them that way?? Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk....those pesky little critters, I hate them!
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I do the "full moon" approach..
These liners buttoned into the field combat drawers.
Damn good set od warmers (where needed) I'd say.
open where one wud need to make water, too.
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I still wear the wool long johns.

I love my wool.
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Originally posted by paddyofurniture paddyofurniture wrote:

I still wear the wool long johns.

I love my wool.

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Thanks!

I will order a set for the son in law.

The look on his face when he opens the box, priceless!

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Hey fellers Thanx for the replies
 Let me clarify
During the Korean conflict Commonwealth troops were [ if they were  lucky] early on issued a woollen liner for the standard issue BD trousers. I've seen and I'm familiar with the older style liners that look like a wooly pully and the later "Chinese Fighting Suit" liner
I have however only seen one example, at the War Museum in Canberra Australia.
The system was according to the blurb  Wool long johns then pajamas style wool long johns then the BD trousers then the windproof smock style [ ie pull-ups] trousers [ to keep the mud/blood/faeces and brains off the wool so it didn't need to be washed after a battle ( Verbatim from the blurb) The descriptions at Canberra are honest.
What I wanted to know is if these were used with suspenders of their own or used the trouser suspender buttons and also how baggy were they and what woollen material they were sewed from
I know from a look at the display that they were sewn not knitted
CWM are not able to help with this inquiry as they have has staff levels reduced to the bone and the old display has been removed to make way for the new Vietnam displays


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I may have a bit on info on that, at least the pull up over trousers.
Back in the mid 70's in England I bought a pair of MilSurp overtrousers for cold/wet weather use on a motorcycle. They sound like those you describe. They were baggy, about the same as U.S. issue BDU pants. They had an elastic waist, with no button or suspender attachments. The ankles were equipped with (IIRC) 2 straps to allow them to be secured at the ankles. Color was OD, no camo or Khaki. Material was some kind of waterproof synthetic like nylon. I don't remember any pockets at all, not even slit openings you had to go in through the waistband to access regular pants worn under them.
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Thanx Shamu
I've been doing as much reading as I can but I still haven't found any new information. Those English waterproofs do sound like the same design tho except that the version I saw at the museum were in cotton.
Many of those veterans have passed on now so it is becoming harder to get any first hand information
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