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    Posted: August 08 2017 at 11:29am
Also should I be worried about this crack? 


The crack does not go as far as the picture leads to believe. If you zoom in you can see. 

These are the numbers in question that I am stumped on. The serial number on all parts of the gun is B 55157.



Here is the album of the parts. 

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The number under the bolt handle should have a matching number on the receiver flat where the bolt handle closes down. This was a Lithgow assembly number.
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It does. :) 

I just did a bunch of searching and found out my gun is a JJCO import. Does this look like a rebuild from surplus parts or a full rifle that was imported?
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No, your rifle looks a fairly honest matching example.

Just to expand on maxwell smarts post, the proof action assembly (PAA) numbers, would match on the action and bolt, provided the bolt is the original. Often after an FTR, bolts were replaced and reserial numbered, but there was no point to match PAA numbers again. This number was an aid during assembly to keep the action and bolt together after proofing but before serial numbers were applied.
Also worth noting, whilst this is a Lithgow process, it is only evident on rifles from 1918 onward.

Can't really comment on the split forend other than suggest to pull it down and inspect the internals more closely. There's much to understand sbout stock bedding on the SMLE and impossible to know from the outside. Looks like there has been an attempt to repair that split by the vertical brass rod.

Have a look inside and come back to us. You must also understand the tear down process for an SMLE before you do.
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what homer is saying is that with the number one rifles you remove the forend before disturbing the butt screw as you dont need more cracks 
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Yes thank you all for the replies. Im glad this rifle seems to be a clean example and not one of the dreaded JJCO rebuilds. 

I took the gun apart completely and was able to see the crack only goes all the way through about halfway on the inside of the wood and is inline with the corner of the wood. Seems like someone tried to take the buttstock off before me and cracked the wood there a little bit as well but there seems to be a brass insert reinforcing the area. Also the brass recoil pads are intact and present. 
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Here are some pictures of said crack: 
















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I see 2 different cracks, one through the left side wall the other in the bottom.
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Yes correct. the one on the bottom actually goes from the bottom to the top but is very hard to see. If you look at picture one you can kinda see it. 


I just edited up this picture real quick so you could see it. 


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i would spend the time and energy to fix both , there is a small one superfissually at the top of the first photo as well , fix it too , these will last many lifetimes - they already have - if taken care of , all of the correct impact points are covered so im thinking you have natural aging going on , its a fine rifle worthy of your attention , 
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Originally posted by A square 10 A square 10 wrote:

i would spend the time and energy to fix both , there is a small one superfissually at the top of the first photo as well , fix it too , these will last many lifetimes - they already have - if taken care of , all of the correct impact points are covered so im thinking you have natural aging going on , its a fine rifle worthy of your attention , 

The one you're talking about is the one that has already been pinned in place with a brass rod. Should I do some more work on it? How should I fix these cracks?
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The usual trick is to gently & carefully spread the existing cracks just enough to get a degreaser (like denatured alcohol) in there to remove oils, then let a thin wood adhesive wick in then remove the spreading & wipe off the excess that oozes out.

There's several videos on U-boob about it.
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Awesome. Thank you for the help!
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as he said - easy peasy , and well worth the effort 
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