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    Posted: December 01 2016 at 12:11pm
A couple of weeks ago I decided to review how I shoot my .45 pistol. Having found that I lack consistency and generally not being happy with my scores in competition.
I watched a very interesting video by Jerry Miceluk. The guy is just incredible! 
Anyway; I started from scratch! 
1: change of stance, keep it simple, face on to target, raise the pistol to your eye line, not dropping your head. Use both hands instead of one (although some competition requires just one hand)

2: change to using two eyes open instead of closing or blanking the left eye. When I started shooting my left eye always seemed dominant; but recently I think my right eye has taken over; so making the 2 eyes open easier to comprehend.

3: I realised that I could not focus properly on the front sight without my glasses, so had been focusing on the target instead. So tried with the reading glasses inside the safety glasses. (Need to get special lenses fitted inside my safety glasses)

After a few shots to settle in. It seems that it's starting to work out for the better. 
2nd time out, shot 5 individual shots and checked through the scope, all nicely in the black. Then tried 5 without checking through the scope and also all in the black. Tried to speed up a bit and got a bit into the white. But it's encouraging. I need to continue practising slowly to get the position and trigger pull (my biggest fault) consistent. Then I'll try and speed up.
Just got to get on with more reloading now so I can keep up the practice. 
Anyone else tried a total make over of there method?
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not yet may have to , ive not seen jerry in a number of years , since we quit hosting tri-gun challenge here , maybe ill get the chance this year , he is a remarkable shooter and a really nice person , 
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What you say about shooting with both eyes open reminds me of , Now then, Was it Peter Hawker??
 
Anyway, he said,  " If a young man  starts shooting with both eyes open, it will save him the trouble of  having to learn to do so later"  !
We all started shooting with shotguns, so it was always both eyes open.  Do the same with a rifle and revolver.
What distance were you shooting at?
 
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I shoot pistol at 25 metres.
Our service pistol competitions are: Precision, which is single hand for the paper target and either one or two hand for the gongs (5 shots -20 seconds and 5 shots 10 seconds) and Military Vitesse which is the bigger target and two sets of 5 shots 20 seconds followed by two sets 5 by 10 seconds.

Jerry's 6 shots in less than 2 seconds including the draw proves I have a lot to learnWacko
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Had a book at one time, "Trigonomotry" or Triggeromotry or some such. Lot of interesting reading in there!
One bloke could empty a pair of S/actions in about a second I believe. (If I remember right!
The book recommended trying spins like the "Roadagent's spin" over a bed if you were using a loaded revolver.  (!)  Makes sense!
Probably written in the 30's. 
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I found the biggest thing was alignment.
You probably know this anyway but try stance, sight alignment & so on then close both eyes & count to 10. Open them & see where you're pointing "naturally", adjust your stance, starting with the feet & working up till you stay on the bull even after the 10 second count.
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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That's a good idea Shamu. I'll try that. 
I've also been trying to improve my trigger pull by dry firing with a laser pen tapped to the pistol. Seeing if the aim spot moves when the trigger is squeezed.
Hopefully I will see some improvement over the winter.
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It really does work, if you're not "centered" at the feet, ankles, knees, shoulders, elbows & wrists you're pulling on a muscle (or more) somewhere. If you can find the "natural point" that goes away, its a far more relaxed stance.
You could combine the two, get the pointer on the bull & do the eyeball thing, then keeping the stance start working from the ground up.
Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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