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    Posted: March 17 2012 at 12:17pm
New to the Enfield and I think I messed up. First. I am in the process of making a display of WWII rifles of the foot soldiers of each big player.
The M1 Garand, German Mauser,Mosin,Enfield and Type 99 Jap rifle.
My issue is, I wish to have good models for display. Problem is. The Enfield I purchased has been modified to much and I fear I can't repair the damage done without alot of cost.
 
So, what I wish to know is. What is the best step from here? Sell this one? And just locate one that has not been cut on?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
I have purchased a new front stock set. Then found out that you can't mix MK1 and MK2. I have not shot the gun. Prior owner did say it shot well. Optic mount is interesting. It is a solid gun. Just won't work for what I need.
 
As you can see from what I have built so far. The case will be filled with photos, ammo, bayonets patches and anything else that will fit. Waiting for more wood for the back. Hard to find. Anyway. Any suggestions?
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The Enfield and the Arisaka for that matter are beyond restoration.  They make fine hunting rifle but that does not meet the goals of your collection. The  No4 Mk1 and No 1 Mk III are both correct for The Commonwealth and are fairly plentiful. At the typical gunshow there are usually several of each, and it is not uncommon to find a Arisaka.
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 In order to restore that No.4 you would have to replace the cut down barrel with one that is still full length and has the bayonet lugs and front sight base intact.
Finding good No.4 barrels is not that easy, and finding one that clocks in properly can be frustrating.
 
Restoration is possible, all the other missing parts can be found at reasonable prices, but adding cost of rebarreling its probably not cost effective.
 
On the upside a pre bubba'ed No.4 is a good place to start in building a fine sporting rifle.
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Thank you for the info. I suppose I should try to sell what I have a start over with these two rifles. I will do some checking on Bubba'd rifle costs so I can get a value.
This has been a fun project.
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Welcome to the forum and good luck on your project
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For what you'd spend on parts to restore it - you'd be further ahead takin this one hunting & buy another Enfield
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Yea Hoadie is right , Take it hunting and buy another Enfield thats not Bubbaed...
I had 3 barreled actions that out of the 3 ,2 were cut down like that on is .... but out of the 3 only 1 was able to be brought back to full mill spec.. and like Hoadie said it costs !!  of the other 2 , I sporterd one and the other was not worth fixing at all it was junk !!!
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".......Yea Hoadie is right , Take it hunting and buy another Enfield thats not Bubbaed....."
 
dittos what they said , but a nice early 40s no1 mkIII* or no4 mkI / I* rifle , the arisaka as well ,
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Yep, work'in on it.
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Great project Hailstorm. I've had a similar idea in the back of my mind for some time now. So far I've been concentrating on my passion for Enfields, but your collection may just be the motivation I need to start looking at the other rifles. Thanks for sharing the pics.
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OK, I have made a deal on another one. This time the barrel has not been hacked. It appears to have the sights. I will put the new front stock piece on it and buy the two bands that hold the stock together.
Found out the scope on the other enfield is a Weaver K3 60-B. Interesting for such a old scope.
 
 
A pic of the one I am picking up.
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ok - it may be able to be retro'd back , why buy bubba rifles if what you want is military rifles ? just sayin ....
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If I could find one I would buy it. Locally there doesn't seem to be much choice. That one I had lined up. The seller flaked out and never returned my PM's for his address to meet today. The next one I can find is 3 hours away. I was going to travel an hour for this one already.
 
Why is it people have to chop something up? For what? To make it look sporty? I'm sorry. But all they do in my eyes is destroy the natural beauty of the gun.
 
Sure, I have plenty of guns that don't have any wood on them. But, the wood makes them feel like a living thing. Like holding a piece of history.
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I would never dream of modifying my carbine! It saddens me to see history tampered with...
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"...the wood makes them feel like a living thing. Like holding a piece of history. ..."    agree with you there ,
 
seems i recall a lot of collectors in michigan , and some great shows , but thats a few years back so may not be so now ,
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To be honest, I usually shoot better with the rifles "as issued" afield.
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