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    Posted: January 12 2014 at 4:46am
he!!o all!  Just figured to jump right in with my trusty '67.  I've had this rifle since about '88 or '89, can't rightly remember when exactly.  It seems like I've always had it.  Over the years it's been my "go to" rifle for just about everything, and for a time it just sat in a gun rack doing nothing.  Recently I've dusted it off an began to research something about it.

In a nutshe!!, when I first got it the rifle was a dog.  It was about as accurate as a Storm Trooper in a Mos Isley hanger shoot out.  Over time I've managed to get it to about 3 to 4" group at 100 yards with iron sights, and that's about as good as I can shoot, maybe the rifle is better than that. I've done bedding, crowning, trigger polishing, shimming and wood relief.  Somewhere in that process it started shooting great, most notably after I did the wood relief and trigger polish. 

Now that I've got it shooting great, I've begun to collect accessories.  And to me, that is where the real fun is!

I look forward to leaning more.  Thanks for letting me ramble on!



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very nice , congrats on making it a better shooter , 

i too like the accouterments for these , it is a great part of the fun , ive picked up bayos and slings for all of mine as well as cleaning kit and a few odds and ends including a handful of those rifle cases , 
i no longer have any of my indian rifles and miss them a bit but i see you did a nice job of matching the bits to yours , 

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Ah, very nice collection!  I am six shades of green with envy.

To tell the truth, I've been a bit of a pack rat gun wise until just recently.  I've "collected" dozens of guns, of all different types, over the years.  After I retired from the military I started cleaning house and realized that out of all my guns I only used a few, one of them being the Ishy and some Soviet stuff.  I started about 3 years ago forming an actual meaningful collection around the Enfield to include the accesories and other field gear, as well as doing the same with the Soviet.  I find the hunt for "just that piece" to be a fulfilling and enjoyable way to spend my time, although my SWMBO may disagree!

The hardest part is that the Ishy isn't a "real" Brit Enfield, it's Indian, so finding proper period correct stuff is very difficult owing to the fact that little to no information exists on Indian Army field gear of the 1960's.  It can be implied that they used Brit stuff, so my collection for the Ishy is either period correct gear (such as the bayonet frog and sling), but the other items are extrapolated from what I believe a low budget Indian procurement officer would have purchased to outfit his troops.  The bayonet is late WWII surplus RFI (it at least matches the factory that made the rifle), cleaning kit is surplus Brit, the case is a repro (but made in India) and so on.  It'a a bit of historic bunk, but it's at least plausible. 

I feel the Ishy's got a bad rep simply because they are Indian.  But I have found them to be excellent rifles, once you correct some of the poor finish work (the trigger was particularly rough).  Overall, after 25 years of using it, I've never once found it to be sub optimal in any category, and in many ways it's superior to the .303.  After all, it was the last incarnation of the Enfield and they applied all of the Enfield knowledge to the 7.62 version.

Perhaps if there is an interest I can share some of the things I've done to the rifle?  I am no expert for certain, but perhaps my spoonful of knowledge may be helpful?
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would love to have you share what you did yto your rifle , keep in mind there are many folkshere and some of us have knowledge in only certain areas , we all learn from everything offered , i know ive never done the things you have described and would appreciate the chance to get some new info , 

might also help someone bypass a mistake in the process , 
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NO information imparted on this site is "useless"'
Theres always someone that makes use of or learns by it.
(Less of course you keep referring to them as "guns")
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I would be more than happy to write a couple of "how to" posts on what I did to the Ishy.  I know much of the information is generic to any given rifle, but if it helps to see it actually done on the rifle in question, then that would be OK.  Only problem is that I didn't bother to take any "before" photos, so the photo support will be a little lacking.  

I had a late day at work, but I can write up something tomorrow.

You know, I even found the real answer to the .308 vs 7.62 issue.  I know THAT would be useful to Ishy shooters.
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good one hoadie - i missed that / actually thought he was reffering to all those non-enfields ..... Wink
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That's a beautiful collection you have. I'm new to the forum so this post is extremely out of date for your original post. Where did you get your accessories such as the sling and the harness the bayonet scabbard is attached to/hanging in?

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he!!o, Okchief!

Welcome!  I've been very busy with work lately and haven't had any time for "fun gun" stuff or for posting anything on the forum for that matter, but such is life!

I got my accessories in a number of different places, IMA usually has a good supply of slings and whatnot, I've gotten stuff from World War Supply, and some others.   The trick to Enfield accessory collecting is to BUY IT WHEN YOU SEE IT!!!  If you don't, it will be gone and there is no telling when or if anymore will ever come up as surplus.

I really dig doing research and trying to find the authentic bits to go with the rifle.  I've bought some "close enough" things in the past, but over time I have replaced those with the correct items.   Searching for the accessories can be quite a challenge, but I find it to be a lot of fun!  The way I look at it, anybody can swing by their local gun shop and buy  a three point sling for an AR15, but few, if any, gun stores will have an Ishapore pattern bayonet laying around for sale.

Good luck, and good hunting!
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Originally posted by ozzlefinch ozzlefinch wrote:

I would be more than happy to write a couple of "how to" posts on what I did to the Ishy.  I know much of the information is generic to any given rifle, but if it helps to see it actually done on the rifle in question, then that would be OK.  Only problem is that I didn't bother to take any "before" photos, so the photo support will be a little lacking.  

I had a late day at work, but I can write up something tomorrow.

You know, I even found the real answer to the .308 vs 7.62 issue.  I know THAT would be useful to Ishy shooters.


I think all the people on this forum would love to read what you did to make that Ishy more accurate....I know I would !! !!
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