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    Posted: December 16 2013 at 4:58pm

Hey, this is my first post, sorry for my English.

 

The problem is: I have No 4 Mk I*, 1944, Long Branch. And bayonet No 9 Mk I, POF, 1956.

Bayonet doesn’t fit. What can I do? 

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they should fit together , as far as i know , the mil spec did not change , but as i am unfamiliar with the POF rifles/bayonets i could be wrong in this case , my mk2 is a FAZ , and my no9 is a poole , this leaves me with only brit made items to compare with , pakistan 'could' have altered things to their own design , 

but im more inclined  to think the locking lug of your bayonet is fouled with cosmoline , if you were to soak it thoroughly in kerosene [think the brits call it parafin] or some similar cleaner i think you may actually get it to work , 

longbranch bayonets fit all my no4 rifles as well as my entrenching tool , but one of my spike bayonets came to me so encrusted in dried cosmoline that the lock button would not work , and another seemed to work fine but the bottom of the socket was caked full and would not go completely in place , i soaked them and used various cleaning tools to get them cleared , it was a bit of work , 
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Although they should fit this is far from the first one I've heard of that has not done so.
Maybe there is a run of reproductions or something that doesn't quite fit?

Question for OLD CADET:
does the bayonet even slip over the muzzle, or does it just not rotate into the lugs?
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good point , i assumed it went over the muzzle like mine did , but just would not lock on the lugs , 

im inclined to agree with your speculation only because its a POF bayonet that i know absolutely nothing about , 
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Somewhere I have measurements of the barrel, hole in the Bayonet socket, width across the lugs & so on. Let me go see if I can find them.
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I have 2 Pakis at home , and some No# 9 bayos , I will have to check when I get home from work next week!
and I can try swapping bayos around on all my Enfields , including my Long branch...
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it may well be just that POF bayo , but i look forward to any input , hope he drops back in to respond to my first thoughts as well as shamus later ones 
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I just today bought one online and when it gets here I'll try fitting it to one of my #4's and report back to the forum. I got a 1961 dated unit with scabbard and frog.
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good that will tell us more of these , come to think of it my no9 has only been fitted to my mk2 rifle sinse ive owned it - never had the inclination to try it on any of the others , perhaps ill dig it out and mess about a bit , 
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That would be great!
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I forgot all about this !!!!  the problems with working 14 days straight !!!!!
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I hear 'ya, Rhino! Been there, done that for a very long time!
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I guess its better than when I was with GE and worked until the job was complete !!!  I once got into the end of a job that ran 6 months straight ....  7 /12s !!!! in Athens Ga. it seemed as they completed work on one Turbine another wrecked !!!  they had 26 peak Turbine Generators on site and No# 27 was almost complete , with 28 half way, 29 had the foundation poured and 30 was being laid out and the forms being built to pour the footings !! 
That was some good money!!!  I got 6 weeks out of that one , then went down to Demopolis Ala. and went through a few of their Peak units !!!!  another 8 weeks !!!!!of 7/12s with some extra time for me since it seemed no one on nights could fix the flex seal on the exhaust !!!!!
In a way I miss those days !!! they seem so care free to me now!!!!  it was fun!!! even the times I got to insult the night foreman and get away with it !!!! Nice to have the GE Engineer on your side !!!  and what I said to insult him was the truth !!!! LOL!!! 

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He most likely deserved those accolades! LOL
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Originally posted by Canuck Canuck wrote:

He most likely deserved those accolades! LOL


Yea!!! He did !!!!    since we try and act civil here on the forum I wont post what I said ....Censored
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best not said , but we can imagine , 

to the OP - my poole bayonet fits all of my mkI-mkI*-mk2 rifles equally well , im thinking it a POF thing at the moment or a cleaning issue , 

il edit to say i do not have a POF bayonet nor a POF rifle , so i could be missing something here 
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