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This is very timely, as I just removed the cosmoline and I am now leaving the wood overnight as recommended.  I'll have to go buy some raw linseed oil now as I just bought some boiled linseed oil. 

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After Photos of my cleaning:


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Although Raw is the authentic finish I have successfully used boiled in the past. Raw never really 'sets" so the finish is "woody" in texture if you see what I mean.
Turps actually converts Raw to Boiled chemically, so the finish builds up over time & layers to a shiny smooth one.
For a really shiny finish use "Old London Oil" a 50/50 mix of RLO & She!!ac. Bottle a little shake to mix (it never really does, shake like salad dressing) apply  with a pad, buff like heck, leave overnight, wipe down, repeat as needed. Be Careful of the mix & the cloth it can smoulder or even burn, store as is safe.

No1 kIII* with many-many coats of RLO, this is after I dried out some of the excess applied over 100 years or so. "Sweaty wood" is a possible side effect of RLO eventually.


This is my No4 Mk2 stock, which started out as the greasy mummy wrap. Its had the old BLO, "once a day for a week,once a week for a month, once a month for a year, & once a year for life" treatment for a few years now & has oxidized to a (to me beautiful dark honey color with a semi-glossy finish which I like a lot. It retains a "feel of wood", rather than the hard shiny "plastic" finish of modern varnishes.

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With the gun disassembled, I would recommend at this time also oiling the barrel/receiver channels. Do you agree, Shamu? Might not get the opportunity for a long time!
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That Mk4 No2 is fantastic! Just for clarity, if I’m using BLO, do I need to cut it with anything, or apply neat?
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Yes absolutely!
A few coats on the inside will complete the sealing against water or moisture.
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I intended to put a coat or two on the inside anyhow. Thanks for the prompt.
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BLO use as is.
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converts to BLO with turps, or becomes a varnish with the she!!ac mix.

I apply BLO with a 3" (or so) square of an old lint-free T-shirt with 2~3 cotton balls inside. Rub, smear, buff, really work it in there with pressure you need the heat of friction (& you should actually feel it warming when you get it just right) leave overnight, repeat as needed. Wipe off excess.

You'll find its a disconcerting process if you've not done it before!
The first 3~4 coats vanish into the wood instantly. Don't apply a second till the next day.
After 6~8 coats you'll think you botched it up because it'll dry all patchy uneven some glossy & some matte & everything in between. DON't PANIC!

Keep on & it'll all even up after the different wood grain areas become fully loaded.
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Beware of spontaneous combustion of rags and brushes when using BLO/Turpitine mix. Avoid direct sun lite working areas.

A good method for working the mix in is the old spit-shine finger tip in an old sock over several days.

Again dispose of cloth material as with any extreme flammable hazard dangerous waste.

Please post the results and methodology.

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Does anyone know if the Old London Oil that Shamu mentioned is available in Canada? If not, pity!
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You can't buy it anywhere as far as I know. You buy the components & make it yourself. Its not hard.
pour a small amount of RLO in a marked container (the disposable plastic cups for medications like NyQuil are perfect) or you can buy the disposable shot glasses from the supermarket. Just fill them both to the same level (about 1/2 way is plenty). now pour both into a small bottle with a cap & shake the heck out of it.
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Ok. I now understand. It's the same ratio as my mix but you use she!!ac instead of turpentine and boiled linseed oil instead of raw? Is that correct?
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yes coat the inside while apart , my old spiel working from raw wood is once a day for a week -once a week for a year , once a year there after or as required , very thin coats rubbed till warmth is created with soft cotten cloth [the athletic sox is a good suggestion , but - do not overdo the thickness in any single coat you will fight it forever , 

also while apart take a boatload of close up detailed photos for future reference , also document your efforts for our enjoyment 
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Nope its RAW linseed (RLO) . For this to work well you don't want the linseed to dry.

The she!!ac forms the surface gloss & the RLO the internal oiling. The beauty of the combination is that the excess Linseed "floats" on the she!!ac on the surface. What give the high gloss is the interface between the outside of the she!!ac & the inside of the non-miscible linseed, which is real slick & smooth. Overnight dries the she!!ac & you wipe off the surface linseed.!
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Got it, Shamu! I'm going to use this process on my latest aquisition thanks.
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It's not a 1 coat process, do as many as you need to get the effect you want. In all honesty its a bit too shiny for me.
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