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    Posted: May 30 2016 at 12:17pm
a member of our shooting club has a few bayonets for sale. I don't know all the models!
but first one is a Jap 1897 hooked Quillon, good condition, but dents on metal sheath.

next one I believe is swiss

was told this was for a FAL, but I'm not sure!

and and older possibly Enfield musket type spike. not sure as there are alot of similar spike types out there!


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What are the prices?
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..methinks the 3rd one is for an M-43 Ljungman (6.5 X 55)
The last one looks like the ones I have for my pattern '53 - but without knowing size - can't say fer sure
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...I mean..I THINK so..Once I thought I was wrong - but I was mistaken
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prices!, well he wants an idea of values; but he is open to offers.
I'll pass on any offers in Euro's.
For example, he did offer me a 1907 Sanderson 06/17 manufacture in nice but not excellent condition for 65 Euro's.  However when I pointed out that the blade had been sharpened. The others are in better condition than the 1907.
I will ask for dimensions of the spike bayonet fitting etc.
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is there any markings on the spike?
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Hoadie you are right, it is a Ljungman, AG42 model.
I only saw one small mark on the spike. I have asked for dimensions etc. So many similar types of these spike bayo's.
I think the swiss one is for a Schmidt-Rubin Mod. 1889/99 for 7.5mm M'1889 rifle.
He also has a long spike for the MAS36 I believe. I can get a photo if anyone is interested.


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Post costs are high going across the pond.
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Originally posted by paddyofurniture paddyofurniture wrote:

Post costs are high going across the pond.
Depends on the method of shipping. When I lived in the UK I used to ship stuff back to South Africa on a regular basis and it didn't cost much using Royal Mail. If you use a courier then the prices start climbing.
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you are correct on the japanese it is an arisaka Type 30 , its for the T30 through T99 rifle , if i could see the markings i could tell you who made it , there were 18 distinct manufacturers , they come both bright and blued and that is the early style scabbard 

the second is indeed swiss M-1918 for the M-1911 and M1931 schmidt-rubin rifles , it is correct bright finish and they are generally in nice shape , 

the third does look to be a FAL but it is a sweedish M 1896 and a really nice one too , 

as to the sockets , there are so many variations of these that unless it has identifiable markings one needs access to it for careful measurements and inspections of the contours of blade and socket and lock , a lot were produced by one country under contract to another , 
some folks that collect these know them well enough to ID but not me - ive only had one US springfield trapdoor socket and a few enfield for the P1853 , snider and martini so im not that guy 
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Thanks guys for a nice bayonet class with pics.
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