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Craig
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Posted: March 30 2015 at 5:58pm |
I received a nice No. 4 Mk. 2 bayonet in the mail a couple weeks ago. Disassembled and cleaned. It looks very smart on a 1943 BSA No. 4 Mk.1. This being my first I was just curious about the amount of movement that is typical with a bayonet? At the end of the 8" spike it has about 1/8" of play. Just curious to know if this is typical?
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i installed my longbranch mkII bayonet on my longbranch mkI [yes it is a mkI] it has perhaps 1/8" rotational movement but no longetudinal movememnt at all , does that help ? ive not gotten any others out to check , but i suspect similar results ,
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Sarge
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A certain amount od 'play' is the norm.
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This is MY rifle, there are many like, but this one... is MINE!
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Shamu
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Yes its a slightly loose fit on the barrel. Nothing to worry about the lugs & spring loaded catch will keep it on safely.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Craig
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...thanks! I was just wondering what was standard? Good to know...
...and it occurred to me to also ask if using a bayonet in combat carried with it a possibility for damaging your rifle's abilities in any way? Were there directions given to soldiers as to how not use the bayonet in this regard if at all possible?
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hoadie
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..unlike the Ross.
(It had a nasty habit of dropping the bayo when fired!) Gives you a lot of confidence in a battle. Hoadie |
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Loose wimmen tightened here
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Shamu
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Bayonet drill was pretty much dead when i was in except for ceremonial purposes.
All I remember hearing was bayonets were supposed to be fixed if the enemy was within 300 yds. FWIW the other thing I remember was a sequence of moves & an instruction about how to do harm to the bad guy with one. Long thrust, short thrust, Parry & butt! Thrust, disembowel & disengage. That was about it. Mostly they were used for opening tins of corned beef! Here's a bit of WW1 film showing the bayonet course. http://www.britishpathe.com/video/bayonet-drill-sequence-aka-lancs-fusiliers |
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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paddyofurniture
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I feel left out. I served my Army time in a tank unit. Not a bayonet to be found.
M1911A1 amd M3 grease guns for everyone. |
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Always looking for military manuals, Dodge M37 items,books on Berlin Germany, old atlases ( before 1946) , military maps of Scotland. English and Canadian gun parts.
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Shamu
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My buddy once cut a huge bayonet from a sheet of 4X8 Ply, painted it silver & attached it to the gun tube of his M60A1 tank in Germany.
Drove the Sov's nuts looking at it across the wire. |
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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I have the "pig sticker" on my Enfield Rifle No.4 Mk2, and it has just a little play. Locks up pretty tight. The M1905E1 for my M1 Garand has more play. I have an M6 on the M1A, and it's tight. Preliminary test have shown that the M6 does not effect accuracy. I have not tested the Enfield.
A battle rifle with it's bayonet is formidable.
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For the pikes must be together at the rising of the moon.
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hoadie
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When I have the pointy bit on my Pattern '53 Enfield..I can jab the guy down the block!
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i think by the time you employed the bayonet the usefulness of the rifle at the time had ended and its future use was not a current concern , kinda - act now worry later point in time ,
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Craig
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Shamu, what a great video! ...and... Great tank buddy to have!
...yeah it's nothing I would ever want to face... ...at the same time a perfect piece of craftsmanship and art... |
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Shamu
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My meager set of "Pointy bits".
Still kind of intimidating this close. As has been pointed out (pun intended) if the BG is that close with a scoped rifle you're in deep doodoo |
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Craig
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...disassembled, de-Cosmolined, cleaned, polishing wheel, blued...piece of art... |
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