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Topic: Scope choice
Posted By: Honkytonk
Subject: Scope choice
Date Posted: March 12 2018 at 6:04pm
Once my new Addley mount comes, it'll be going on a No4 Parker Hale sporter. I have shot this rifle with an older 4x Weaver Microdot. I was checking my parts bin and found a new Tasco Pronghorn 3x9. The rifle will be used for hunting, with a probable max range to Target 200-225 yards. I'm interested in members advise on which scope they would choose.



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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: March 12 2018 at 6:20pm
I really like the Vortex Viper scope in 3-9 X 40.

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Posted By: Macd
Date Posted: March 12 2018 at 6:31pm
I originally put an older (1950's) Bushnell 1.5-4x20 made by Bausch and Lomb on my PHale but after getting whacked in the nose in the semi-prone position I went to a Vortex 2-7x32 with a longer eye relief.  Scope centre is 1.75 inches above line of bore and I get a good and consistent cheek weld on the stock.  I used Weaver Tip Off rings which are about the lowest you can get.  The only issue with the rings is you have to start off with the scope slightly turned to the hinged side of the rings as they will turn the scope as they are tightened up.  As an aside I use the Wheeler system to get the scope reticle perfectly perpendicular.


Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: March 12 2018 at 7:57pm
That Wheeler system is really cool! I bought one kit a couple years ago and wow what a difference with way more control over proper reticle levelling. It’s the most important tool in my fire arm tool box.

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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: March 12 2018 at 8:05pm

My scope of choice has always been a Bushnell 3-9×40.
This one is the Bone Collector. A very forgiving scope in every way...


Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: March 13 2018 at 5:50am
The Weaver, although older and a straight 4x, still has a very clear lens. Much better than the Tasco so I think I'll go with that. Looks better on the rifle! Thanks.


Posted By: Ranch Dog
Date Posted: March 14 2018 at 3:56am
I like the Weavers, the scout scopes brought me to their K4 Classic Scout. No issues shooting a 4X out to 300 yards and I've killed a desert mule deer at 197-yards, shooting offhand with my Savage 10FCM Scout, a 308 Win.  I do wish they would update the basic K4 as it still retains the long tube that it always has had, make it short and like the K4 Scout (9" and 9 ounces). I wrote them with this request and they said they are working on it, I replied that I would buy 13 of them immediately.

When I was a kid, the only scopes you saw in South Texas were Weavers, that was when it was a Texas-based outfit. The family is still around, I've been on their "Scope" ranch.


Posted By: mausernut
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 11:10am
I would definitely not use the pronghorn. An okay scope for a 22 but I don't think it would stand up for very long.  I would use the Weaver. It's a much better scope.

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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 2:41pm
Agree. Older Weaver 3x on my sniper clone, older Weaver 4x on my Parker Hale Enfield. Tasco will go on my 10/22.


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 15 2018 at 5:11am
all this talk bout scopes always makes me feel deficient.
I have NEVER been able to use a scope properly.
My open sights have always been great - either at the range or in the bush.
But now that my eyes have grown old..I'm having a time of it.
A little too late for this old dog to learn the "new tricks".

Everything - it would appear seems to be wearing out.
(Now it takes me all night to do what I used to do all night.)

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Posted By: Macd
Date Posted: April 15 2018 at 8:40am
Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

all this talk bout scopes always makes me feel deficient.
I have NEVER been able to use a scope properly.
 


My eyes are also getting bad enough that iron sights are just too hard for paper shooting so I have scoped just about everything except the couple of rifles that have diopter sights.   In the bush I have found I really like scout scopes with their forgiving eye relief ranges or even a reflex or holographic.  I have a Bushnell Red/Green Dot on my combination 20 gauge/22 WMR and it works great for small game shooting.    A few critters have gotten clear before I could get the shotgun on them only to stop and get plunked with the rifle.


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 15 2018 at 10:46am
my eyesight been/is going too , i did not say gone because i have some use without aids at medium distances but long range i need the scope , and i put a vortex viper on my bench rest target 22 rifle , its a kimber 82G that is somewhat a work in progress , 


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 15 2018 at 3:39pm
Whats your problem with scopes, Hoadie?
What doesn't "work right" (apart from the obvious)Evil Smile


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Posted By: Canuck
Date Posted: April 15 2018 at 4:50pm
There's a little blue pill for that, Hoadie.

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Castles made of sand slip into the sea.....eventually


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 16 2018 at 6:15am
The problem with me vs scope is that I tend to "overcorrect" myself when I see the target thru a scope.(Only way to 'splain it)
Probobly coupled with the way I breathe (weez), as well.
In the bush, its a disaster. Raise it up & all I get is a blur of trees etc. (Deer put a whole new meaning to the term"fast food")

The last time I went to a range with scope & spent some real time on it - I came back with a monster headache. The highlight was the guy beside me getting a real beauty of a scope eye!!
Open sights in the past never seemed to let me down..but now its not the rifle letting me down, its me old eyes (& they don't have a "blue pill" fer that!)
Maybe its time to learn meself to use the scope...or maybe just start using shotgun. (a little more foregiving for hunting)


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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 16 2018 at 6:20am
I suspect the Lee Enfield Sporter, when a scope has been installed but no cheek piece added, is probably responsible for more Scope Eye than any other rifle. I say this from experience!!


Posted By: Macd
Date Posted: April 16 2018 at 7:05am
Originally posted by Honkytonk Honkytonk wrote:

I suspect the Lee Enfield Sporter, when a scope has been installed but no cheek piece added, is probably responsible for more Scope Eye than any other rifle. I say this from experience!!


Got the scraped nose a black eye to prove it. That is why I went to a longer eye relief scope.


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 16 2018 at 11:27am
Well - I still remember that day..I was working the bolt on my rifle, and blood splatter came across my station. I was surprised & thot someone had been shot! When I looked to my right, the guy was on the ground rolling all over the place..bled like a stuck pig!


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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 16 2018 at 11:30am
I didn't leak to bad, but had a nice half circle on my brow!


Posted By: hoadie
Date Posted: April 16 2018 at 2:57pm
The guy's name was Rick. He ended up with stitches, & raccoon eyes. I hunted & shot with my doctor quite a bit back then. Doc was there with us. Rick was a biz partner in Doc's son's new environmental business.

Sadly - about a dozen years ago Rick took his own life. Marital breakdown was the "accepted" cause. (Course, these things usually go a lot deeper)

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Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 16 2018 at 6:46pm
I don't know what to say other than keep the eye back far enough you can cycle the bolt without breaking the weld.
Seriously, I see so may shooters "climbing the stock".


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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 16 2018 at 7:00pm
I've always called it a, Mag Mark. Me and a buddy had just finished installing a muzzle brake on his thumbhole equipped 700 BDL in 300 Win Mag. He sets up his shot,squeezes the trigger and,BLAM! Blood splatter. My dad's laughing,and then says, gimme that,you did it all wrong. He shoots and,BLAM! More blood splatter. This time requiring stitches. My turn. Guess the outcome. Blood splatter. My friend waits for the cease fire call,and then holds the rifle up and says,"I will take exactly one dollar for this thing right now!" It was funny...



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