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Topic: New entry! Training rifle
Posted By: Beppe
Subject: New entry! Training rifle
Date Posted: April 06 2018 at 2:52am




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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 06 2018 at 7:39pm
really nice looking trainer , would like to see more of the wrist - you left off all of the markings save the sold out of service arrows , looks to be a very fine example , 


Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 06 2018 at 7:44pm
I would trade my Maltby and one of my Custom No4's for a .22 Enfield trainer


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 06 2018 at 7:47pm
im no longer trading to get one but i understand your desire ....






Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 06 2018 at 9:24pm
I want the No8.
I would actually be willing to trade my Marlin 39A,the Maltby,a JC Higgins bolt action 20 gauge shotgun,and my Santa Fe Special No4.


Posted By: Stanforth
Date Posted: April 07 2018 at 2:29am
Originally posted by Goosic Goosic wrote:

I want the No8.
I would actually be willing to trade my Marlin 39A,the Maltby,a JC Higgins bolt action 20 gauge shotgun,and my Santa Fe Special No4.
 
You would have to trade a kidney, both arms and your soul to the devil. to get one.
It is distressing that they have recently been taken out of service and the  UK Government has decided that they must all be destroyed.
The reasoning is that they don't want the public to have access to 'Military Rifles'. So we can't have a single shot 50 year old .22 but there is no problem with a semi automatic copy of an AK47 etc.
 
I am after one to case with my Envoy but I would be more successful seeking the Holy Grail.


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Posted By: Beppe
Date Posted: April 08 2018 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by A square 10 A square 10 wrote:

really nice looking trainer , would like to see more of the wrist - you left off all of the markings save the sold out of service arrows , looks to be a very fine example , 

Here we are...





Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 08 2018 at 6:56pm
destruction is the worst - we all would treasure them , 


Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 4:33am
That's a very nice example of the No2 MkIV. They generally shoot very well.
Goosic, I have 2x No8's as well as a No2MkIV*, but I'm not trading. But they do come up for sale occasionally in France.


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Posted By: Stanforth
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 6:20am
A friend of mine is an armourer for the ATC (Air Training Corps.) they hold most of them. He has been trying desperately to get one for himself with no luck. He has put a number of the best to one side but holds out no hope.
 
The stupidity of Government Officials is beyond belief. There are thousands of rifles that could go into the trade at about £500 each but instead they will pay someone to destroy them.
Anyone wanting to add a .22 to his certificate must buy an imported one, what good will that do for the national coffers?
 
It is not just the shooter who is being ripped off it is every taxpayer in the UK.


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Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 12:39pm
Sounds like my two have just gone up in value Stanforth! 
It's difficult to understand the stupidity of destroying such a heritage. Both financially and historically. Obviously the decision of some no brain anti- everything knob!
How difficult would it be to import one to the UK? i was told that single shot .22 rifles were less complicated to import to France from the UK, so it may be the same exporting to UK. But get it done before Brexit!!
If you are seriously looking for one ; let me know bye-mail.




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Posted By: Stanforth
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 1:16pm
I will make enquiries.


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Posted By: islandguy
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 6:22pm
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Posted By: islandguy
Date Posted: April 09 2018 at 6:25pm
[QUOTE=Zed]That's a very nice example of the No2 MkIV. They generally shoot very well.
Goosic, I have 2x No8's as well as a No2MkIV*, but I'm not trading. But they do come up for sale occasionally in France.
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Zed, how would the No8's have made their way to France in the first place? I'm still trying to figure out how the ones that ended up in Canada got here.


Posted By: Stanforth
Date Posted: April 10 2018 at 4:10am
Originally posted by islandguy islandguy wrote:

Originally posted by Stanforth Stanforth wrote:

A friend of mine is an armourer for the ATC (Air Training Corps.) they hold most of them. He has been trying desperately to get one for himself with no luck. He has put a number of the best to one side but holds out no hope.
 


Pardon my impertinence, but if your ATC friend has that level of access to those firearms, he probably has the power to make a few of them disappear. It would be the correct thing to do, and he would earn himself a special place in the heaven of his choice. A few years ago, I was the beneficiary of such an act of kindness, and was, is, and ever shall be grateful.
 
He is NOT a thief.


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Posted By: englishman_ca
Date Posted: April 10 2018 at 4:47am
Pretty Sht.22 Mk.IV. Yours is not exactly as per factory issue in that they came without a magazine body fitted. 

The jump to Mk.IV* in 1924(?) was the fitting of the mag body. Hardly a modification for which it was worth getting the stamps out.

Yours is rare amongst the rare birds, in that very few escaped the stamps and remain marked as Mk.IV.




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Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: April 10 2018 at 11:35am
Thanks Englishman! I've something new today; excellent!

Islandguy; If you knowingly bought or received a stolen firearm in Europe or UK; you would loose all of your firearms and most certainly be arrested.
So an expensive legal weapon is always cheaper than a free stolen one!


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Posted By: Zed
Date Posted: April 10 2018 at 11:39am
Some inspiration for Goosic! 





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Posted By: Honkytonk
Date Posted: April 10 2018 at 12:20pm
Love the look of those rifles.


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 10 2018 at 8:21pm
beautiful , a mk IV , and another mk IV* , and both 1915s , congrats to both of you , 


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 11 2018 at 6:33am
You makin' me jealous.Cry


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Posted By: Goosic
Date Posted: April 11 2018 at 7:25am
I'm inspired. I would almost consider trading my One Off,Faux No4 for a good No8


Posted By: Shamu
Date Posted: April 11 2018 at 9:24am
Oh I'd do that in a heartbeat!
No8s go for well over a grand here so heck yeah I'd trade a $550 No 4 for one.
Hug


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Posted By: Stanforth
Date Posted: April 11 2018 at 10:13am
Over here they are listed for between £900 and £1200 (I will let you do the conversion based on where you are) but that is for very good ones.

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Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 11 2018 at 4:50pm
i never see the no 8 here or i would have one but then ive not seen a long lee trainer or i would have that as well , 

congrats to you who do , 


Posted By: Eddie Parks
Date Posted: April 12 2018 at 9:52am
The very best bit of that rifle is the brass butt tally. Antrim USC stands for Co Antrim, Northern Ireland, Ulster Special Constabulary - in other words the much revered (or hated) B Specials.

A real museum piece!

Eddie


Posted By: A square 10
Date Posted: April 12 2018 at 4:46pm
i respect that , 


Posted By: Eddie Parks
Date Posted: April 13 2018 at 1:58am
It also links in with the modern day story of small bore rifle shooting here in Northern Ireland in that most of todays rifle clubs have their roots in the old B Specials rifle clubs and in some cases are still using their old ranges. The chances are, judging by the quality of the engraving on the disk that this rifle was the private property of a B Specials ( also known as Bee Men) club rather than an issue rifle. In any case I am so pleased to see it. Its just a pity its no longer in NI.


Posted By: Beppe
Date Posted: April 13 2018 at 9:14am
Thanks Eddie!!



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