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    Posted: April 24 2016 at 4:13pm
Tonight I was replacing the original Mk 2 rear sight with a Mk 1 for my cousin's Maltby No 4 Mk 1. All was well until trying to install a new rear sight axis pin retaining pin. It seems the ones I have are too big. They barely start and when trying to tap them in they go about a millimeter in and then just mushroom. Question is, can that retaining pin be left out? I am thinking there is enough tension on the sight to prevent the axis pin from backing out but I have never been without one before. Thoughts would be appreciated.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Canuck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2016 at 4:26pm
I've left them out before with no immediate problems. Try making the pins you have smaller on a grinder but watch out for your finger tips or use a pliers to hold them.
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Howd u make out @ Canada Tire with those easy-outs?
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Hoadie...it worked as you said it would!! I had to carefully flatten the screw head and the other end as well to get the proper drill bit to carefully machine it's way into the old screw using my drill press and leveling blocks for a square set up.I got it to the point the easy-out threads bit into the old screw and it actually started to turn. The night before I did the machining I soaked the old screw with penetrating fluid. I think that helped some. Bottom line is I got it out. Then I re-threaded the rear trigger guard hole with the appropriate tap and then installed a new screw and Bob's your uncle! Some of the best tools I have ever bought for working on rifles especially the Enfields are the right thread taps for each screw in a #4 rifle. They are BA series threads. I have one tap for each threaded hole in an Enfield #4. As a side note, I just came into possession of a complete barrel/action removal assembly. Those being the actoin/barrel wrench and vise with a set of aluminum collars. Going to practice removal and assembly on some 'junk' barreled actions I have.
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Canuck, what is the whole story on needing the easy-out? I am most curious now! Wink
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Photos please.
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I thought the retaining pins were tapered?
Maybe you're using the big end instead of the small one?
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Bear, I bought another #5 jungle carbine. When disassembling it I found the rear trigger guard screw head was mashed to the point it couldn't be removed so I had to machine it out.
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I made one out of a big paper clip: no trouble for the last 5 years
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Shamu, the pins I have are not tapered at all. Not that I can see anyway, those things are pretty tiny though. SW28fan, that is a good idea. I think I will go with that as the current pins are tremendously soft and I think a paper clip would be sturdier.
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Failing that a finishing nail, trimmed to length is popular..
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I managed to get the pin in. Tackled the pin with some sandpaper and that was enough to be able to tap it home.
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I hear if you sand your pin too many times you can go blind....
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Bear,
 
I thought the hole was a bit tapered.
If it won't start from one side, turn it around and try from the other.
(yes, bit late now you have it sorted!)
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Put the pin in the freezer over night and the cool will make the steel contract.

Quickly remove the pin from the freezer with tweezer and tap the pin in place quickly.

I had never hear that sanding your pin leads to issues but that explains a lot.
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Canuck, yeah, that's what I've heard but.... LOL

Pukka, I am not sure the hole is tapered. I am going to investigate it though as I do have a spare axis pin laying around to check it out.

paddy, that is an excellent idea that I will have to make note of for the next time I have this issue. That would certainly simplify the install.
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