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    Posted: December 24 2009 at 7:29am
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My buddy has asked em some questions about his grandfathers enfield.  He has no pictures for me yet, but he gave me a serial number 427111.  So I'm curious did any manufacturer use a Number 4 prefix????  I know Maltby, Faz, and Shirley used 1,2, and 3 respectively. 
I'll try to get pics soonest
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im not positive i follow your question , but ill take a stab at what i think your asking ,
 
if .....you are asking about the 'number4' rifle , yes , both savage and longbranch used a prefix to their serial number in the war years , and FAZ , BSA , EFD and pakistan also used prefixes on post war rifles ,
 
in the case of savage [us made] rifles it was 0C thru 99C , in the case of longbranch [canadian made] rifles 0L thru 95L
 
in the case of FAZ - PF & UF [only on '55 rifles]
in the case of BSA - PS
in the case of EFD - UE
these were all made in england
 
in the case of pakistan - C was used
 
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oh , and i was deficient in my first answer in that the england based rifles did get prefixes durring the war also , and i think i misstook your "number 4" to mean the no4 rifle , you may very well be addressing a diferent rifle altogether
 
but these are no4 prefixes as well -
BSA 4-digit contracts used single letters and double letters AA-AV
Maltby 5-digit [1xxxx] contracts used single letters and AA-BZ
FAZ 5-digit [2xxxx] contracts single letters and HA-PF
BSA 5-digit [3xxxx] contracts single letters
BSA 5-digit [4xxxx] contracts A only
 
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no he has a 6 digit serial, with a prefix Of #4, I'm waiting on pictures but it's in a Monte Carlo Stock
Soon 4xxxxx
 
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ah , that throws me a curve , i do now understand your question tho .........a 4xxxxx [5  digit ] serial number , guess we must wait for the photos to get a better handle on what he has ,
 
someone once told me [a wise man i recall] never say 'never' or 'always' when it comes to enfields , he has been proven correct more times than i wish to recount ,
 
anyway ill look forward to seeing what you get
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Ya, I'm by no means an expert as Serial numbers. I looked through the stuff I have and couldnt come up with anything.
 
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Here's some pics this is a different .303 similar question though
 
 
 
 
This one has a serial of EL 1853 I thought Longbranch but I can't find a reference saying they you a double letter prefix.  this one has been hacked up though
 
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nope - not longbranch , that would be 0L type prfix , shes been polished too much to ever get back to her origins without getting down to nitty gritty markings and based on the sporting job - one cant be certain of anything ,
 
just shoot her and enjoy her , she is a handsome rifle in her own way
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after reading other posts i now see the other problems - dont shoot it - i think it unsafe without some carefull inspection by a certified gunsmith
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The one I posted the pics of is actually and EAL rifle, Appearently they bought surplus actions, odds, and sods to rework and build enfields.  They made the Cdn Survival rifle up to it's replacement with the henry and Ruger.
 
Still waiting on pics of the 6 digit serial
 
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