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Quite a lot of "English" words are really French ones we "borrowed".

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that's a fact - we seem to borrow - steal - invent words quite regular like and yet we have a really complicated language because of all the words we have - some just a nuance off from all the others that might fit only that exact instance of usage , 

i do love the vocabulary , its fun to offer up the exact word on certain occasions and the trivia is entertaining , i really enjoy the older - near antiquated words , but it certainly messes about with these international discussions , 

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some of us old curmudgeons are more prone to that than others , but we mean no harm nor foal ....or is that fowl ? oh yes - i recall now we shoot at those dont we ?   
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Francois,

I am writing an article about these P.'07 Siam-contract bayonets.

Yours is very interesting in that it shows BOTH the partially scrubbed 'WILKINSON' and '1907' stampings.

Since you hold the copyright on the photograph, I would like your permission to include the photograph in the article.  You would of course be credited for the photo in the Acknowledgements.

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JMB
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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

Quite a lot of "English" words are really French ones we "borrowed".



And we did not give them back!
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nor shall we --------but sorry the thread took the turn for the OP - we all man well , just enjoying life as it comes , 
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Originally posted by JMB1943 JMB1943 wrote:

Francois,

I am writing an article about these P.'07 Siam-contract bayonets.

Yours is very interesting in that it shows BOTH the partially scrubbed 'WILKINSON' and '1907' stampings.

Since you hold the copyright on the photograph, I would like your permission to include the photograph in the article.  You would of course be credited for the photo in the Acknowledgements.

Best Regards,

JMB

Hi
Of course, you can, you're welcome.
Thank you for asking and all the best for the future...

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Merci bien, Francois !

Vous etes un erudit et un gentilhomme.

Amicalement,

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Originally posted by JMB1943 JMB1943 wrote:

Merci bien, Francois !

Vous etes un erudit et un gentilhomme.

Amicalement,

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Wink Good french.... 

Cheers

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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

Quite a lot of "English" words are really French ones we "borrowed".

No... a lot of English words are English ones you "borrowed"Wink
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he!!o Francois,

I used your photo of the Smiling Tiger P.07 bayonet in an article about possible identification of the makers of these bayonets sent to Siam by BSA in 1920.

The paper finally made it into print,


so I wanted to share it with you.

Best to read on a wet Saturday afternoon !!

Again, many thanks for your generosity.

Amicalement,

JMB
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Originally posted by Zed Zed wrote:

Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

HHMMMMPH!...The French have a different word for everything...


Hoadie! it's called another language!!!LOL

Hoadie. Do you like Steve Martin?
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Originally posted by JMB1943 JMB1943 wrote:

he!!o Francois,

I used your photo of the Smiling Tiger P.07 bayonet in an article about possible identification of the makers of these bayonets sent to Siam by BSA in 1920.

The paper finally made it into print,


so I wanted to share it with you.

Best to read on a wet Saturday afternoon !!

Again, many thanks for your generosity.

Amicalement,

JMB

Hi John
I've read with a great pleasure your very interesting article... and not only because it was a wet Saturday afternoon Smile

You didn't mention the 100.000 Remington made P1907 bayonets.
No chance that some Remington made P1907 bayonets were included in the siamese BSA contract?

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Francois,

You raise an interesting question regarding the possible presence of Remington-made Patt. 1907 bayonets.
My initial weight survey had deliberately excluded these, in case any differences in type/density of steel might obscure any weight differences between makers.
Also, REM was contracted for only 100,000 in the period July 1915 to early May 1916; because of the tremendous demand for bayonets it is likely that, as with RSAF bayonets, there were none left in stores in 1920.

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the remington P1907s are few in count in the big picture but worthy of consideration , i dont have one and i dont know anyone that does , ill be interested in your results just for the fun of knowing it , i like trivia - not that its gonna come up in my trivia fun knights any time soon , 

on the other hand they were prolific in the P1913/14 and M1917 bayonets , they were afterall just a valiant P1907 , that might offer a decent sampling , 
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Why YES! Yes I do like Steve Martin Goosic.

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i do as well but its been years sinse anyone brought him up in conversation , i really liked "the jerk" and the one about the wedding ..........im sorry - old timers moment , it was well worth the watch , he could play the banjo better that most , my father was a banjo player but he played the plecrum not the five string , steve was a wonder on the five string , i wish i had been gven even a little musical tallent - but alas ...........i dont even play the radio well , 
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