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    Posted: March 31 2018 at 10:43am
I took the Maltby out and snapped some photos of her. A couple shots show her with the Singer Cruciform bayonet. Enjoy...
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Ouch! That sticker would leave a mark!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 25-5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2018 at 1:45pm
Great looking rifle ready for battle.
Have you done any comparison firing with bayonet on and off?
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BEAUTY rifle! That cruciform bayonet certainly would make a scary impression on an adversary back in the day.
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Not with this one but I have done it. There is a difference, especially when the barrel gets warmer.
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Originally posted by Canuck Canuck wrote:

BEAUTY rifle! That cruciform bayonet certainly would make a scary impression on an adversary back in the day.

I was told that,the cruciform left a nasty wound channel compared to the blade,or the regular spike.
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In WW2, as opposed to WW1, do the members think they were still used routinely? I can't imagine an order more terrifying than "fix boyonets!!) Now up close and personal. My worst fear..
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After the (un)civil war - or wasn't long thereafter..the world "banned" the triangle bayonet due to the fact it was darn near impossible to heal a wound like that.(3 blood gutters meant easy/deep piercing.)
They found them to be cruel & unusual.
So, when I see the cruciform bayo I have to ask, was this "legal"?
Unlike the triangle bayo - the cruciform isn't long enuf to pierce a man thru & thru..but it sure would leave a nasty, nasty wound.
So-what was it that made it "legal"?
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IIRC, the Russians used a form of the triangle, as well.
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there are a lot of interesting types anbd styles out there over history , some were useful without hand to hand , like the krag trowl bayo , 



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Macd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2018 at 4:36am
The saw edged bayonet was a liability for any soldier who was captured as they were seen as unusually cruel by both sides. It invited "Battlefield justice".    Many soldiers ground off the teeth or scrounged for models without the teeth. BTW., officially, the saw toothed was issued to assist in cutting wood for fires and makeshift construction. I think one of the longest examples of a regular bayonet was the Japenese one on the type 38 rifle.
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the type 30 japanese bayonet was 20" overall and 16" blade , it was the prototype for the british Pattern 1907 of the same size and styling , right down to the original P07 hooked quillon - later removed , 

the long ones were typically the british 1858 naval cutlass at 26+ yataghan blade more a sword than a bayonet but with the locket and muzzle ring , many countries used similar in that time period tho , the pattern 1860 jacobs might as well have been a sword complete with full or half basket , the US M1841 & M1855s as well 

the japanese did use the british pattern 1856 , the first developed by them was the type 13 at about 28" overall blade would be about 23" it was for japans first rifle the 11mm single shot murata circa 1880 , the type 18 for the same rifle got shorter to around the 16" and more like we know them type 22 shorter yet at about 12" , the type 30 was next at OAL 20" back to the 16" blade 
they adopted the american M1905/42 10" M1garand style in 1950

the utility ones were the US M1868 trowel and M1873 trowel and  Krag M1898 bolo , and that swiss M1911 from my previous photo 
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Very good looking Maltby Goosic; What year is it? It looks very similar condition to my own 1944 Maltby.
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It started life as a 1944 but.went through a FTR in 1952. Now it's a No4 Mk1/2...
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