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    Posted: December 21 2008 at 4:25am
There are a LOT of proofs on this old girl:

The SMLE I have is a No.1 Mk.1*

Wrist band reads:
(Crown proof)
E.R.
L.S.A.Co.L.
1906
SHT.L.E.
1*

The right rear of the bolt, on the cocking piece, reads:
(Broad Arrow proof)
(Crown proof)
98
B (Birmingham Small Arms "B")

Back side of the bolt handle is marked "Y" over 5737.

The safety is emblazoned "III"

The left of the receiver, right in front of the gas port, is marked:
(Crown proof)
E.R.
(Crossed flags)
P

To the left of that mark is:
(Crown proof)
X (L.S.A. proof)
67

Those same proofs are continued on the barrel, left side, just ahead of the receiver as:
(Crown Proof)
E.R.
(Crossed Flags)
P

(crown proof)
X
67
(Broad Arrow proof)

Just to the right of those proofs is:
(Crown Proof)
50
E
with a large "P" to the right of those marks.

Very light, and slight to the right of those proofs, near the flat on the chamber end of the barrel is:
(Crown proof)
VB
E

The right side of the barrel is marked near the flat at the chamber with two sets of proofs, the first (faint) reads:
(Crown proof)
C (may have been overstruck over an E or a K)
E

Below that proof, and right up to the receiver, are:
(Crown proof)
X
46

The SN is the same, and struck the same, on both the receiver and the barrel, right side, just above the stock line:
60526
K

The underside of the barrel, has a LOT of proofs. They read (left to right):
(Crown proof)
X
89

then,
(Crown proof)
X
89

then,
(Crown proof)
X
17

then,
(Crown proof)
39
E

then,
(Crown proof)
X
38

then,
double struck (Crown proof)
double struck X
double struck 61

then,
(Crown proof)
X
17

The rear barrel sight was removed, but just below where that sight would have been is the "HV" proof stamp.

The trigger guard is stamped on the bottom, center, with:
(Crown proof)
34
K (or X, very faint)

Right side of the trigger guard is stamped with an inverted "M", and a sideways "Z".

Trigger is broad arrow proofed on the left, and "35" on the right.

The charger on the bolt is stuck on the underside with crossed flags, and an illegible proof (looks like a bursting bomb), and topside with (Crown proof), over X, over 39.

The magazine release is marked with a broad arrow to the left, (Crown proof) over H2 over E on the right.

Sear is marked Broad arrow near the trigger connection (lower leg), upper leg is marked (Crown proof) over D8 (I think) over E.

Whew......

I believe that those are all the proofs, and in the right locations.


Here's are the pics:























 
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That rifle has smoe nice looking wood mounted. Nice piece!
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Oh my gosh! What a beautiful looking rifle. Does it shoot as good as it looks?
I'm just guessing that you are a hunter living in Virginia.
And welcome to the sight!
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Hunter, from VA, and still mostly there.

Don't know how she shoots, yet, as the receiver sight is still MIA.

That said, she points like a fine upland gun, and feels like she "wants" to shoot VERY well.

Not much firearm related has horned me up as much as this old girl for a long time.  I can know I'll like this one, before round one is down range or in game.
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Nice looking piece of kit, really like the furniture
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VAnimrod Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 11 2009 at 10:59am
Still looking for that damned receiver sight......................

Here's the good news, though:
The bore is tight as a nun's __________________, well, you get the idea. A .308" bullet will not enter the muzzle nor the breech, without engaging the lands. The bore slugs (3/8" pure lead sinker drive through it from breech out the muzzle) at no more than .311" (miking a five-groove slug is a PITA).

Finally, some good news, as it sounds like .312s will work like magic, and she's likely to shoot factory fodder, jacketed, and military ball well.... all things being equal.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VAnimrod Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 11 2009 at 11:00am
But, here's the bad news..........

Brass pics.  I remembered I had these, and no, it ain't pretty.

The one on either end is unfired.  The five in the middle are various makes (one PRVI, one Fed., one R-P, one W-W, and one S&B).

You oughta be able to see the problems, though that band at the base is mostly separated on all but the PRVI.  Check the shoulder and neck, esp., as those are apparent in the pics.

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Yeah, and that band just above the rim does not look too crash hot either.

Sloppy chamber?
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Sloppy, I think, is being nice.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tony Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 11 2009 at 8:03pm
Best get the chamber checked out. Are you using top powder weights when you reload or mid range? 
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Looking at the pics the shoulder seems to have been pushed further forward than normal.
How's the headspace?
I'm comparing the "unfired case" on the right to the others here that looks like a lot of blow out, more than I'd expect from even a very oversized chamber.
Are those end cases from 2 different rifles as the difference even there loooks pretty massive?
 
The Prvi Partizan is supposed to have a larger (more accurately made) case diameter at the base of the case, & this seems to be true from a few Prvi & S&B cases I've measured BTW. That together with thicker brass overall may explain why that case has held together better. 
 
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Thats why I said get it checked Shamu. It sounds like a classic case (no pun intended) of sloppy chamber and headspace problems.
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That rifle's stock is an excellent piece of Walnut
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Found this information on headspace, and using the rifle, in another forum:
 
Here's another topic on exactly the same issue:
 
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Headspace
Get some
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