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    Posted: December 30 2013 at 6:44am
Anybody know what a "G" on the barrel knox of a Lithgow 1942 SMLE means? i'm trying to find out if its a heavy barrel too, given that the aussies made a few of them. any feedback helps!
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 Sorry mate, it's a light barrel, the heavy barrels have a big H on the nocks flat.
 The G is just an inspection mark.
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Another ID point , in addition to the "H" stamp, the Lithgow heavy barrels have a short stepped down section at the muzzle end to allow for the standard foresight band to be used.
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thank you all for your help, im a bit crushed but its ok, I bought it because it was a Lithgow. I'll try to see if I can take the front band off to clean and double check, but the previous owner stripped the "-" screw that keeps the wood on and the sling. how he managed to do that considering its not a Philips is beyond me.
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Why are you crushed mate?
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Originally posted by Gen Scinmore Gen Scinmore wrote:

thank you all for your help, im a bit crushed but its ok, I bought it because it was a Lithgow. I'll try to see if I can take the front band off to clean and double check, but the previous owner stripped the "-" screw that keeps the wood on and the sling. how he managed to do that considering its not a Philips is beyond me.


The outer band screw will have a countersunk hole in the other end. It was practice to put a centre punch in that hole and give it a whack to expand the thread out locking it in the band to prevent it coming out. Sometimes they will unscrew a turn or so before locking up.
As with all screws on your rifles, you should only use correct fitting (and by that I mean correct thickness and width) hollow ground screw drivers especially when first stripping when you do not know how tight they might be.

Point of interest, philips head screws are arguably stronger than slot heads, but once again, the correct fitting tool needs to be used. Screw heads are usually only buggered up by impatience or incompetence.
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thank you for the feedback, looks like the previous owner just destroyed the screw only to find it wouldn't come off.
before i cut a new slot for a screw driver, does this look like they expanded the thread like you said?
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 @homer   I was hoping it was a heavy barrel.Cry
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Hey Brad and Andrew, hope you had a good break,now it's time to get serious again.Beer
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Originally posted by muffett.2008 muffett.2008 wrote:

Hey Brad and Andrew, hope you had a good break,now it's time to get serious again.Beer


I'm hearing you, Kev! Hopefully be able to post pics of "getting serious again" in the next week or so....Wink

Yes, that looks very much like a centre punched screw to me. The screw itself is had it, try to save the band, don't attack the screw head with a hack saw, you most certainly will mark the band trying that. Get a drill bit that is marginally smaller than the thread inside the band (do you have another one to try it in? Or a trigger guard swivel lug or nosecap piling swivel lug or a butt swivel lug, all are the same size) Drill into the end of the centre punch mark for a couple of millimeters, taking care to keep it centred in the screw. This will weaken the flared end enough hopefully to allow you to unscrew the screw without butchering the band.

On the topic of the heavy barrel... why would you want one? If the rifle is in reasonable condition and has matching numbers, fitting a heavy barrel would drop it's value by 1/3
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Originally posted by MaxP MaxP wrote:


On the topic of the heavy barrel... why would you want one? If the rifle is in reasonable condition and has matching numbers, fitting a heavy barrel would drop it's value by 1/3


Not to mention also having to modify and re-fit the rear sight base, and opening out the barrel channel in the fore-end/handguards, and then sorting the bedding out again so it will shoot.
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Apologies for the confusion, I don't want to modify my rifle at all, but I was hoping it might be a heavy barrel since I know the mates at Lithgow made a fair amount, I don't see any problem (other than weight) a heavy barrel would have, but im certainly not going to install one. like you said it would drop the value considerably. im crushed that its not a heavy barrel though because the last one I saw sold for £8,000. thank you all again for your help.
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Mate, you might want to check that price again, new unfitted heavy barrels still come up occasionally for under $500. Complete rifles (range rifles, civilian modified target rifles) with heavy barrels are for sale everywhere for between $400 and $600, with aperture sights. There are even a couple of Lithgow HT snipers for sale at the moment for around the $7000 mark.
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http://www.efdrifles.com/368.php
my apologies, it was £800 
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