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I have had great success using electrolysis on musket barrels, for cleaning the bore and for cleaning the exterior.

It is so easy, you just wont believe it!

Takes me about half an hour to set up an electrolysis rig from scratch and get it running for a barrel or barreled action. 
My tank is made from cardboard and duct tape lined with a black garbage bag. My electrolyte is a water solution made using just a dash of dish washing machine crystals. I use a regular 12v battery charger.

 It removes all dirt and corrosion down to a molecular level yet does not touch the parent steel. For my needs it is perfect in that it leaves the bare metal a flat finish dark steel grey. I take it from there for creating a patina.
You probably already have all the stuff needed to put a rig together. It costs next to nothing to do. 

After an hour in the tank, you will be simply amazed at how much crap comes off. The corrosion lifts and turns to a black slime, so you might need to pull the barrel out a couple of times to get the sludge off with a scrub brush under the tap before returning it to the tank.

Same process that museums use to clean ship wreck cannon.

Works great on rusted old tools and seized auto parts. .
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Paddy, I will take pictures and show how the electrolysis does. I decided to give it a whirl. All I had to buy was some washing soda to put in the water, I had everything else. After what Englishman said I decided to give it a try on the LSA barreled receiver. I only paid $40 for this musket so I figured it was cheap enough to experiment with.
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Pretty cool, look forward to seeing how this turns out.
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I got the barreled receiver cleaned up. It took a lot of time to get done but it turned out nice. I used electrolysis and followed that with a thorough scrubbing with very hot water. I let it dry for a day then boiled it for an hour. I followed that with several hours spent using a lot of oil and 0000 steel wool. The downside is the paint got stripped off but there was so much rust it needed to be dealt with aggressively. There is significant pitting on several areas of the outside of the barrel but nothing that makes it unsafe to shoot. The chamber and bore are absolutely pristine. So, this one is totally serviceable.



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After a delay waiting to get some parts I am very close to finishing this project. On Saturday my bolt heads came in and I got to work fitting the bolt. 4 of the 5 bolt heads measured within the spec I was looking for and the 3rd one I tried clocked in properly. She passes nicely on the .074" gauge. Checked locking lug fitment and was very surprised to get nice even bearing on both lugs right from the start. Easiest bolt fitment I've ever had. Now to just finish cleaning and patching the woodwork and she will be done.


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Good job!
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Where do you place the 12 volt charger leads? Just dangle them in the solution?
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You put the positive on the metal to sacrifice to pull the rust off and the negative to the weapon. I had the positive above the water solution but the negative was in it.
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OK got it, thx.
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Just be aware that if you hook up and submerge the +ve clip of the battery charger, it will start to dissolve too. 

I always use leader wires and make the charger connections outside of the tank.
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I cleaned up the foreend this evening with a good scrubbing with Murphy's Oil Soap. It cleaned up pretty good. I do have some small repairs to do to this and the butt but nothing major.


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Murphy's is awesome stuff.
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I am very pleased with how well it does. I did 1/2 cup in a gallon of water and it pulled the grease and grime right off.
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I have used Murphy’s oil soap.  It does an awesome job on woods. 

 I just got thru with a 1918 Carl Gustav Mauser that the woods were really dirty, and they came out really nice.  Took three attempts with a tooth brush to get all the dirt off to my satisfaction,  Followed that with two coats of Kwiw neutral, and it’s done!

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