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All number match I am not breaking it up,
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With the barrel bobbed its value is lowered & a real refurb isn't possible.
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I'm getting several blank posts & broken links. I deleted them because there's nothing there. What are you trying to do?
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In the condition it's in currently,the only way to refurbish it would be to have it rebarrelled and have all new furniture installed and properly rebedded,including the addition of missing components. The whole numbers matching thing is irrelevant due to all the missing pieces. As long as the scope mount,and scope are matched to the rifle, everything else could be replaced without that much loss in value.
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It is absolutely worth refurbishing to original specification.
In view of the value of these "T" models, even a new barrel would be worthwhile in my opinion. The original being cut would be less valuable than a newly fitted or excellent second hand barrel. It would be worth getting it done by someone that knows Lee Enfields; however that may depend on where you live.
could even be worth buying a standard No4 in good condition to use for part's.
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I am still having problems with pitures . This enfield was up grade from a mk1 to mk2
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We are seeing them now from you new posts, but before it was just blank posts.
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the barrel will still handle new wood,the barrel is in excellent shape all# match.it was up graded from a mk1 to mk2.I do not know much about this stuff so am trying to get other people opinion I have new wood coming from the UK,and looking for metal parts. I would like to know the of month manufacture.
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You could certainly upgrade to original wood with a little hand fitting, but the missing barrel bits would make it a labor of love with a financial hit. That's fine as long as you realize you aren't "restoring value" somehow.
I'm curious why you think its a Mk1/2, though?
There's no bracket for the "hung trigger" of the Mk2.

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It's a 1944 model. There's no spot cut out in the receiver for the bolt head to turn out of. It's a No4 MkI, no asterisk.
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below bolt it is marked N.67 MK II
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See where the bolt head is removed from behind the charger bridge. This is a Mk1.

This one shows the recessed cut behind the bolt.
This is a No4 Mk1*
The Mk2 has this recess and the trigger is hung off the butt socket. The Mk11 designation is something completely different. You'll have rifles designated No4 MkI,Mk2,Mk1/2,Mk1/3
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The serial number of yours shows it came out of the BSA Shirley plant. Late 1944 as a No4 MkI T
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seems legit . thank you gor postinbg this one .
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" The Mk2 has this recess and the trigger is hung off the butt socket"
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I don't think you'll find any No4Mk2 with the resess for removing the bolt. That was specifcally for Mk1*; wartime production economy measures. Anything built after the would be using the release catch at the rear.

Theodore. If you are going to fit new wood yourself; I suggest you study the articles by Captain Peter Laidler that are available on the "milsurps" website. He is a retired British Army armourer and specializes in these rifles. it will gie you a good understanding of what you need to do to get the rifle in top shooting condition.
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