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    Posted: September 15 2021 at 6:32am
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 I just picked up a No4 Mk1* 1943 LB, bolt does not match unfortunately, however can some of you experts advise me what the deal is with the electro stencil on the barrel?
Any other comments / things seen would be greatly appreciated.

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The elctro stenciling on the barrel is more likely than not,  a half-assed attempt from a previous owner to identify his or her rifle if is was ever stolen. It is not in the same script as that of the factory stenciling...
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Thank you that’s what I figured but what do I know.
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Wild guess old owners phone number or something similar.
It was a popular way of "Thief Proofing" your stuff & getting it returned if stolen.
Unfortunately it usually devalued the item it was  engraved into as it could never be sold as "new".
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decent looking rifle - enjoy it , 
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Follow up question, can anyone clarify the barrel marking?

Looks like .303 ??? 18.5 tons

Is this an FTR replacement ? It’s a 2 groove pristine bore.
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Originally posted by sgabrie854 sgabrie854 wrote:

Follow up question, can anyone clarify the barrel marking?

Looks like .303 ??? 18.5 tons

Is this an FTR replacement ? It’s a 2 groove pristine bore.
To clarify.  The stenciling was made by a previous owner and not from the factory. Any FTR markings would be next to the original No4Mk1* factory stamping. If there is a,"303 2.222" 18.5 tons per □" stamped somewhere, it would also have the word,"England" stamped on the rifle as well and typically on the butt socket/wrist. Being a 1943 specimen, it should have a two groove barrel but, that being said, it could just as easily have a five groove barrel installed. Hope that helps...
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The 1944 No4Mk1*LB on the top has its original 5 groove barrel with a Canadian Arsenal stamp on the barrel knox form.
As an added bonus sgabriel854, the rifle on the bottom is a 1943 No4Mk1* Savage with six groove 7.62x51mm NATO chambered barrel installed complete with the CR 141 A 7.62x51mm  Enfield magazine. It is loosely based on the L8 series of Enfield rifles.
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding but the messy electropencil seems to be: "MU0L708CL0?860"
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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

Maybe I'm misunderstanding but the messy electropencil seems to be: "MU0L708CL0?860"
Sounds like it to me, I guess it some "code" that the old owner stuck on there.

So I gather the marking on the end of the barrel was a required proof test before the rifle was sold off into the civilian market place. 

I do not see an import mark anywhere on the rifle.

Stock seems to push on the barrel on the left side, other directions I can get it to float.

I'll see how it shoots.


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