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    Posted: February 09 2020 at 7:31pm
Like to hear from any member reloading the 38 s&w.  I have a S&W Regulation Police for more than 25 years. 

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i do , for vintage webleys , im not loading for accuracy - just plinking so i would see who else jumps in with advice if thats where your going , 


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I do not shoot my Enfield enough to justify reloading for it. Prvi Partizan has the 38 S&W and can be purchased at Midwayusa for a fairly decent price. 
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Same here I don't shoot it much.  I too have PPU factory loads.  When I do shoot, I go through 100 rounds min.  I do reload using 158 gr SWC, Solo 1000 powder because it burns really clean.  I also use Unique.  I was hoping some of you have more insight in reloading this cartridge as the ammo gets expensive.  I have the original wood grip; the grip showing is from Model 36-9.

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BTW, Midway price is now $24/box.
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The box in the picture is almost four years old. IIRC,I purchased it for $12.95.
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I've reloaded .38 with my own cast bullets.  Been a while though.  I've also loaded for my .455 Webley using a copper plated .45 cal lead bullet, worked very well.
 
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Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

I've reloaded .38 with my own cast bullets.  Been a while though.  I've also loaded for my .455 Webley using a copper plated .45 cal lead bullet, worked very well.
 

Gave up the idea of casting years ago because I don't shoot enough. 0.361 diameter 38 S&W produces leading by the forcing cone using .358/9 LSWC, not at all in my 38 Spl J-frame. 

I should try plated .358.  How does your Webly do with .45 cal plated?
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Sidney, the .45 plated bullets shot very good thru my Mk VII Webley.  I can't recall the load at the moment, but I can look it up and update this post.
 
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Have you tried a pistol sighted with a red dot?
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yes, I have a red dot on a S&W Model 22A, that works for me.  But I won’t stick something like that on a vintage collectible gun.  I even regret sticking a no-gunsmith mount on my No. 4, it left small indentations on the receiver where the set screws bit in. 
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thats where i am at with my webleys & enfields , i do load for bout the 380 and 455 but im using my cowboy loads to stay below the design pressures , as i said im plinking not shooting these for accuracy , 
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I have a Webley Mark III that slugged out at .357.
I use Missouri Bullet .358 158gr SWC with 2.5gr W231.
I shoot it a lot. I measure the loads instead of drop.
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I have not slugged the barrel.  I did load up some .358 plated 158 grs as I reload 38 special and 357 mag also.  With 3.2 gr Unique, it is better than the Speer SWC .358 158 gr which leaves leading in the barrel. 
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ok - just so we all are on the same page here - the webley/enfields shoot 38 S&W not 38 spcl , totally different animals - totally different cases , totally different pressures and totally different loads , do not confuse these - although i doubt a 38 spcl would chamber and operate i just had to say this , these are a different diameter bullet/case , 
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ok - just so we all are on the same page here - the webley/enfields shoot 38 S&W not 38 spcl , totally different animals - totally different cases , totally different pressures and totally different loads , do not confuse these - although i doubt a 38 spcl would chamber and operate i just had to say this , these are a different diameter bullet/case , 

You are correct. My S&W Regulation Police is chambered for 38 S&W.  My S&W Model 36 is chambered for 38 Spl.  They are totally different and not interchangeable. 38 S&W cartridge should not and cannot be loaded into the 38 special cylinder.

Totally different topic : Although 38 special can be loaded into 357 magnum revolver and lever action rifle.
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