Enfield-Rifles.com Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Enfields > Enfield Rifles
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - #4 electro-penciled serial# bolt handle
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

#4 electro-penciled serial# bolt handle

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
Canuck View Drop Down
Special Member
Special Member
Avatar
Donating Member

Joined: January 17 2012
Location: Agassiz BC
Status: Offline
Points: 2761
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Canuck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: #4 electro-penciled serial# bolt handle
    Posted: February 27 2012 at 6:56am
I have this #4/Mk1 Maltby (1943), well the receiver is Maltby but the bolt seems to have been replaced at one point in the past with an electro-penciled non-matching to receiver serial# EA29518A. The bolt handle surface has not been scrubbed as I can tell under 6 times magnification that there are NO grinding marks, just original surface. What does this serial number mean? The rifle is a great shooter, typical LE smoothness. Is this a replacement bolt or does it have some other significance attached to that serial number series?    Thanks for your learned responses!
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
A square 10 View Drop Down
Special Member
Special Member

Donating Member

Joined: December 12 2006
Location: MN , USA
Status: Offline
Points: 10212
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote A square 10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 8:36am
if the bolt does not match , and there is no sign of re-number , then it is missmatched , not neccessarily a bad thing for a shooter , except as a collector where it would be preferred to be ,
Back to Top
Canuck View Drop Down
Special Member
Special Member
Avatar
Donating Member

Joined: January 17 2012
Location: Agassiz BC
Status: Offline
Points: 2761
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Canuck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 8:41am
Thanks A Square 10! This rifle is a hunting rifle, full length barrel and furniture. If I were to replace the trig-mech with a Can-West unit, the bolt must be modified for use, therefore turning that bolt into a non-returnable-to-stock part. I wouldn't feel bad then having it modified for that trigger system.
Back to Top
A square 10 View Drop Down
Special Member
Special Member

Donating Member

Joined: December 12 2006
Location: MN , USA
Status: Offline
Points: 10212
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote A square 10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 8:54am
me either as its not currently a service rifle condition and yet i seldom encourage such activities , it is your rilfe
Back to Top
Lithgow View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: October 25 2005
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 1417
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lithgow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 5:41am
The electro pencilled serial number on the bolt is very common on the british No4's.
Does it match the rifles serial number? if it does what makes you think that it is a replacement bolt?
Back to Top
Canuck View Drop Down
Special Member
Special Member
Avatar
Donating Member

Joined: January 17 2012
Location: Agassiz BC
Status: Offline
Points: 2761
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Canuck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2012 at 2:21am
No, the 2 numbers do not match at all.
Back to Top
bophi View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie


Joined: May 08 2012
Location: ptown va.
Status: Offline
Points: 33
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bophi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2012 at 10:37am
i have a long branch #4mkl with a vibro etched sn. that doesn't match, the other sn. it too appers not to have been ground off. 
n2guns
Back to Top
Canuck View Drop Down
Special Member
Special Member
Avatar
Donating Member

Joined: January 17 2012
Location: Agassiz BC
Status: Offline
Points: 2761
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Canuck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2012 at 11:23am
That is very interesting! I do know that the bolt seems to be just perfectly matched mechanically-wise, it is so smooth and the headspace is perfect.
Back to Top
Lithgow View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: October 25 2005
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 1417
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lithgow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2012 at 11:55pm
The fit of the bolt is not determiend by the headspace alone.
The locking lugs must bear evenly also.
Any good gunsmith should be able to check this and it should be done before checking ths headspace. If they do not bear evenly on both sides then you need to stone the high points to get them right. this will alter your headspace a little.
Back to Top
Canuck View Drop Down
Special Member
Special Member
Avatar
Donating Member

Joined: January 17 2012
Location: Agassiz BC
Status: Offline
Points: 2761
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Canuck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2012 at 1:58am
Thanks for adding that, Lithgow, I forgot to mention that. That is a very important point!
Back to Top
A square 10 View Drop Down
Special Member
Special Member

Donating Member

Joined: December 12 2006
Location: MN , USA
Status: Offline
Points: 10212
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote A square 10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2012 at 6:46am
there was a lot of missmatched bolts in the imports as they were often shipped loose from the rifle , no effort to match [or they did not understand they were meant to] once there was a thread on a long gone forum that hoped to offer a trade to match service , just too much chance involved and never came to anything
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.01
Copyright ©2001-2018 Web Wiz Ltd.