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    Posted: November 21 2021 at 3:56pm
Hey,

I was in a LGS yesterday and there was a 410 Enfield in the rack. Not in the best of shape but complete.

Bolt match the receiver and it was reworked in 1946.

When I asked if it had exworked to US 410 the counter clown put in a three inch 410 she!! in the action and closed the bolt, it was a dummy round. The bolt closed fine and the cc said yes it is. 

I do think this is the correct method of checking.

If it is a unmodified chamber a three she!! will not chamber, correct?

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Odd as it sounds yes it is.
The original rounds were considerably shorter & a different shape from the modern .410 rounds.
If it was chambered for the original round it would stop short by almost 1/2 an inch.
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yes - you are correct , the originals [i had one] was chambered for a fireformed 303 , even the modified [i had one of those too] was shambered for the standard 2 3/4" shot she!! , ive never seen one chambered for the 3" , im not certain what the preasure diffence is but i doubt there is concern considering what these were designed for as a 303 but might be worth a look , 
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Questions on a 410 Enfield if I might.

Can you use rifled slugs in a 410 Enfield?

The 2-1/2 she!!s should work fine, correct?

You can use shot she!!s out of  Enfield 410?

The reason I am asking as 410 ammo is very hard to find.

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It depends a bit.
There were two ".410" chamberings.
One used a blown out (short) 303 case, the other took a standard .410 she!!.
If its a .410 chamber (try chambering a bog stock .420 slowly.  If it fits you're GTG, it the bolt stops short  no.
If it fits you can shoot it.
The blown out .303 will look a bit odd after firing though it its a modern re-chamber!

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so i had one with an original chamber for fire formed cases - these are hard to find but making your own are not too difficult and loading your own is not a bad experience , i also had one reamed out for US 23/4 " she!!s - they used to be easy to find and not that bad to buy [i gave them all to bear a bit back ] 
both rifles were gone years ago and i sold my 410 coach gun a good while back , so i didnt need them , 

the 3" i never had and i know very little of it but ......i should think shooting slugs from these would not be a problem at all , i doubt the pressure would exceed the shot she!!s it was designed/modified for , 

there is also the 45 colt option i think , if you were to use cowboy loads [5 grains of red dot / clays / 700X ] should be very reasonable in one of these i should think , it works well in my BP revolvers that i have conversion cylinders for , a nice 200 grain bullet might serve as a slug not sure what might be considered a leagal round for hunting but ill tell you it would drop a deer , 

finding 410 rounds relight now is tuff , and you will pay through the nose fo0r anything you might find , 
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