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Shamu 
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 Posted: April 17 2022 at 5:46pm |
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You won't find that kind of stuff here. We even discuss sporters! Well sometimes, at least.
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Strangely Brown
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Posted: April 18 2022 at 1:54am |
 One regret I have when we formed the Lee Enfield Rifle Association was that there was no appetite for a "sporting" section given how cheap .303 sporting rifles were, (and still are!) and that we have a running boar range at Bisley to use them on. Talk about missed opportunities!
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Posted: April 18 2022 at 4:40am |
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Can’t fool me Sham, I know your “one of us”
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Posted: April 18 2022 at 10:59am |
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Unfortunately the L39 is not currently allowed in the French service rifle modified class, but you could use a No4 in .308!
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Shamu
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Posted: April 18 2022 at 11:01am |
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Better that than "One of Those"!
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Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Posted: April 18 2022 at 11:30am |
 You may have to read,"In Between the Lines" to understand why I no longer compete in in such frivolous shooting activities but, Mr. Cooper drives my point home i believe... |
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Posted: April 18 2022 at 2:17pm |
About 18 years ago I did use an L39 in the NRA (UK) Civilian Service Rifle competitions under "Any Irons", I simply fitted the Mk1 micrometer leaf sight from a No.5 I had spare and tried to remember the number of clicks difference for the various distances on the sight...sometimes forgetting what I should put on! My overall impression was that it was ok for most things prone but for the standing & kneeling disciplines it really wasn't "pointy" enough and the barrel weight was against me.
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Posted: April 19 2022 at 6:26am |
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Here in the US, the modern Service Rifle matches allow for considerable improvements to the basic rifle. Heavier barrels, up to 4.5x scopes, weighted stocks, extended bolt release levers, etc. It’s the “Games” rifle matches (M1, 1903 Springfield and “foreign” military bolt action rifles) that have fairly strict rules for being “as issued”. And for obvious reasons. Some minor mods are allowed, a reduced size aperture, 1903 type sling, new replacement barrels of original contour, maybe a few other things.
An Envoy could be used in F-Class competition in several categories, but not in a Service Rifle match. I’d really like to use my DCRA 7.62 in the Vintage Military Matches, but it is a non-standard calibre, the barrel is bedded at a non-standard location in the fore-end (at the sling swivel band). It wouldn’t be usable anyway in the rapid fire stage without a reliable means of spent case ejection (I’m using a 2A1 magazine). |
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Posted: April 19 2022 at 6:44am |
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UK "Civilian" Service Rifle tend to follow the same rules as service rifle as shot by the armed forces over here and your side of the pond as well, (there may be small changes for either side) certainly max mag power of 4.5x is the same except in Practical Optic class where most things are allowed.
The majority of service rifle shooters over here tend to use AR15's, albeit the straight pull variety to comply with UK law and and we have no restrictions on magazine capacity; a friend with a neck problem uses a 40 rd mag when mag resting to help ease the pressure on his neck and spine. All matches are shot on standard issue figure targets, Fig 11, Fig 12 etc even though there was a movement at one time to get figure targets banned for civilian use; cadets still use a swirly pattern target which at 100 yards looks identical to the normal figure target! You have to ask yourself why?
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Posted: April 19 2022 at 5:45pm |
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i was just posting to that other 1911 thread , i know this is a tangent but ....yes , never go to a gunfight with fairness in mind , go to win , the 1911 is my go to , i prefer the full size but carry a compact , as we age carrying all that weight is cumbersome but i prefer that action over anything else ,
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