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    Posted: August 02 2019 at 4:03pm
he!!o all,
New guy here.
I have read all the advice I could stomach except for this forum.
Please be gentle on me.
I’m trying to get good advice regarding stripper clips for my 7.62x51 Ish. Any help will be welcome.

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he!!o and welcome from Phoenix Arizona. 

A very interesting question that I actually needed an answer to as well.
The only thing I am aware of now is that the original. 303 (charger clips) can be used to (charge) your Ishapore 2A1. 
I very recently converted a No5MkI to fire the 7.62x51 NATO cartridge and the thought never occurred to me to see if I can (charge) the rifle with the original (charging clips). The answer is a resounding yes. Unless someone else here can disprove my next comment, it is of my opinion that they never made a specific (charger clip) for the 7.62mm. I honestly believe they used the charging clips for either or. The only thing these pictures do not show is me thumbing all five rounds into the magazine.  I did,and no issues arose...Thumbs Up...
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Welcome.

First off, they ARE NOT " Stripper Clips" They are "CHARGERS".
& the thingy that holds the ammo is a "MAGAZINE".

Now- with that out of the way..what is it your looking for specifically?

..& we'd like to see your "Ishapore" if you can post a pic or two
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The reply from Goosic came whilst I was typing..ergo I didn't see it until after posting
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That is why I kept putting parentheses around charger/charging clips.
Figured someone would jump on that...Big smile...
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See if I did this correctly.  Trying to post a short video of me charging the No5MkI with 7.62mm in an original. 303 charging clip. 
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I stand corrected. Specific nomenclature aside. I appreciate your responses. Where can the 303 Chargers be obtained?
Picture will be posted soon.
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The only reason I opened this thread was to see how long it was before someone pointed out the 'stripper clip' mistake.Wink
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Chargers are readily available. BUT..there are many that aren't worth buying.
There was an in-depth posting a while back (complete with pics) showing the difference twixt them. IIRC it was Shamu put up the posting.
If we are a tad patient..he may re-post that info again.
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Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

Chargers are readily available. BUT..there are many that aren't worth buying.
There was an in-depth posting a while back (complete with pics) showing the difference twixt them. IIRC it was Shamu put up the posting.
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Thanks, saves me the trouble of finding it again, & resizing it!
Yes avoid the ones with the parkerised finish or round instead of oval holes at the spring.
Technically you need Mk 1 (with the slots not holes in the spine)
or Mk 4 (preferably with the tear shaped dimples but round is OK.

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Frameman;

As Goosic has posted.

Goosic didn't 'splain the difference. but if you look closely, U will note that
the "dimples" on the chargers are different.
The botton ones have a "dot" type bump...whilst the top have a "tear drop" appaearance.
From what has been discussed, the bottom ones aren't worth a fiddler's f*c%.
They don't feed properly.

Made in India IIRC, & avail on-line very cheaply.
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7.62 NATO also came on chargers, but not the same animal as those for the 303.

There was an insert for the 303 charger guide to allow the 7.62 chargers to fit.

I have some chargers around here from the C1 rifle. 






Same clips as those used in M14 or G3. NATO standard.

I did have an insert around here a long time ago, cant seem to find it. It is a little sheet steel doo-dad that clips into the mouth of the charger guide. I have seen them around at gun shows in boxes of bits. Nobody seems to recognise them.
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I find that most chargers of all the Mks will work if they are polished internally.

The older Brit or Canadian ones with the blued steel are the ones to look for.

There is a glut of relatively modern ones made for the Italian Navy. These hit the market with the surplus Italian rifles a few years ago. Most of the Italian chargers are brand new. One can still buy them in the original packing boxes.

Problem is that they are grey phosphate finish which is crap, they don't let the rounds slide. Plus, the spring steel that they used is very stiff. You end up with a very tight hard to use charger. 
They can be polished internally with crocus cloth and tweaked a bit to relieve tension, but best to give then a wide birth and keep looking for the old WWI Mk.IV.

The ones with five holes (Mk.III) are WWI circa 1916 and seem to work for me. But probably because they are well worn after charging hundreds of rounds.

The dots and the ovals are a manufacturing variation. The ovals were early versions I believe and to me seem to work just as well.

A charger collection would be a long time collecting proposition, different marks by dozens of manufacturers.

These things must be getting harder to find. People have scrounged from me over the years and I have but a few left. 

I have seen these things sell for five bucks a piece!
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