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There's nothing "narky about it. That's an unusually large file. I don't know why.
I just went looking through my own .PDF files I have several multi-hundred page manuals, many heavily illustrated as they are things like service manuals. Of the hundred or so files I checked only 2 are lover the 1Mb limit.
For whatever reason yours are much bigger for less original content!
I'd seriously suggest uploading them as copies to something like "Google Drive" or a similar hosting source & then just posting the links here.
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i would be curious, other things such as shooter, bore condition, bedding and ammo being similar, that a no4 rifle would shoot tighter groups than a no1 do to better/longer sight radius. anyone compared their rifles that way? best, john
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It is easier to shoot better groups with the standard No4Mk 1 than with the No1MkIII. If you then fit a Match type rear sight to the No1 rifle you'll find that the group will shrink. That is the effect of the sight radius. Especially when shooting without a bench.
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The No4 also has a thicker, stiffer barrel making it more accurate.
My No4 Mk2 groups about 1/2 the size of my No1MkIII all other things being equal.
I have a peep sight on it too so the barrel stiffness makes a big difference.



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I run NM MILSURPS a shooting club for as issued military surplus firearms. We shoot long range out to 1,000 yards with 800 yards being the most popular as misses can be easily seen.
My Enfield rifles have done very well at this distance and have won the matches more than once.
I do use my hand loads at this distance for no other reason than most of the surplus ammo these days is not up to the job anymore.
I pulled up a few photos showing the results of my No1 MkIII* rifles, No4 MkI,rifle and the M1917 rifle.
With the proper fitting bullet and a charge of BL-C2 or Reloader-15 I have gotten pretty good accuracy using only the issue sights. My club members have also gotten good accuracy at 800 yards and one member own a 7.62x51 Enfield sniper rifle that shoots very well indeed at 800 yards and has won the scope class ( has to be original) several times with his rifle.
Here is our range:
Here is a telephoto shot of the 800 yard berm and rectangle target ( now replaced with AR550 Man Torso target)

No4 MKI at 800 yard firing line. I only allow a front foam rest from the prone position. No slings are allowed.

No4 MkI 200 meter target to test loads

P-14 200 meter target with test loads( a 50 yard pistol target is used to allow a tighter sight picture to be used.

A view looking back at the far left firing line from the 800 yard berm.

800 yard M1917 winning target with my hand loads.


Notice the angle of impact by the splatter marks

All of my Enfield type rifle have very good or better bores, leads and the muzzle crowns are without nicks or dings.
Because of these factors, my rifles shoot well and win matches.

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Can anyone else open these links?
I get errors of HTTPS can not be found" from my browser!

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The image hoster fouled up my links to my photos.
I uploaded them fro my computer.hope this helps.
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I’m seeing the pics Shamu.  

Welcome Rapidrob, glad to have another shooter in our group.  Do you shoot in the CMP Vintage Military matches?

Wish I had access to a 1000 yd range, not many within reasonable driving distance from Atlanta.  I regularly shoot at the Talladega Marksmanship Park in AB which goes out to 600 yards.  These rifles do very well at that distance. 


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What is your preferred handload for your Enfield?
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For the M1917 my best accuracy load is:
LC Match .30-06 1958 brass
Pulled M-118 175 grain SPBT bullets ( same a Sierra Match Kings)
59 grains of IMR-4831
WW LR primer
Lee Factory Crimp die
I have found over the decades that the most accurate load 99% of the time is never the max load.
Some of my long range rifles fire a bullet that is under 2,300 FPS and are very accurate if they stay super sonic at 800 yards.
We shoot every Saturday of the month no matter the weather so we all get a lot of practice in.
I have stationary and remote control moving targets set up. The is a railroad tie bunker set up at 250 yards with hidden steel targets set behind the walls. You fire through a slot to hit the targets.
Our close rifle range is 200 meters for the matches. ( we have both meters and yard ranges)
This months match will be a steel pumpkin shoot at 300 meters for rifles and carbines.
We hold a Mad Minute one a year at 2-300 meters depending on members choice.
I have held a Volley Fire match at 200 meters with each shooters bullets died a different color to score hits in the cardboard target.
In the AM i will be shooting my old friend a Lithgow NoI MIII rifle made in 1940 with my reloads that are very accurate out of this rifle for a practice match at 300 meters.

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Any accuracy handloads  for the 303 british rounds?
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