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No doubt, Benchrest has changed a lot since it’s early days when it was just a scoped rifle shot off a bench with a rest...

One of my Dad’s books I have is “The Ultimate in Rifle Precision” by the late Colonel Townsend Whelen.  It chronicles the beginnings of this type of shooting.  It was traced back to 1944 where a group of shooters in the Puget Sound area got together to shoot their hunting rifles off a bench with support under the rifle.  That was the first know Match when a rest was permitted.  It was intended to find out just how accurate rifles and ammunition are....

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At my local club there are quite a few 50 metre Benchrest shooter's, using .22 benchrest rifles. They seem to be taking over! As many of them are in the club commitee. 
They spend so much time putting up windmills and wind vanes, setting up the rigs and buying a job lot of 5000 rounds to get the same batch! I just don't get it. 
But sometimes we can have some fun!
Last year they had a competition for benchrest and had a class for leisure rfiles. So a rifle weight limit, max X24 scope and either a bipod or front sandbag for a rest. 
So I entered with the No8 Enfield with the Schmitt Bender x6 scope, just for a laugh. I got third on the day, behind two regular's using modern CZ heavy barrel rifles and big scopes (from another club).
But I was top score of our 11 club members who entered.
Before the competition, some of them were surprised that I had turned up with a 70 year old rifle and a scope I fitted 2 weeks before. They didn't have much to say afterwards! I was happy!

But one thing did bug me, we shot three cards, but they only scored the first two. But my last card was my best and would have put me second if we'd scored all three!
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Its not really about shooting, thats the point.
Its more about the mechanics & engineering.

They will literally argue about what kind of giant plastic flower whirligig main spindle bearing, to use as a wind indicator every 10 yards to the target.
Are pneumatic releases, solenoid releases, or cable releases the best for trigger tripping.

Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force)
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Shooting rifles off the bench with support (sandbag or tripod rest) has a similar purpose.  To minimize or eliminate the shooter from the accuracy equation.  

It’s easy to see how this endeavor lead to heavier barrels and more powerful scopes.  Over the years, it has resulted in these monstrosities that are called “Benchrest” rifles.  They do have a barrel, receiver and a bolt.  But that’s the extent of it.  In a few years, they will need a fork lift to bring these rifles to the bench.

Service Rifle shooters pretty much ignore the wind effects out to 200 yards. Many of our vintage military rifles don’t even have a means to adjust the rear sight for windage...


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i rather like your AR and i realize this is not the forum for it but if you wish to tell us more of it on the CT im interested , ive not shot any of these matches but might one day if opportunity presents itself , im still getting used to retirement these days , 
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Originally posted by Goosic Goosic wrote:

We have a 1000 yard range here and that is where I watched a two man operation punching in computer codes into a laptop and watching all the gizmos whirring away until the contraption that houses the barrel and breaching mechanism stopped. The sighting in was done via two camera links setup between the contraption and the target and one camera on a drone. The one computer tech tapped the Enter button on the laptop, the contraption made a loud crack sound and a couple of seconds later after reading the telemetry off of the laptop, the two man operation high five each other and then started the process over again. That is not shooting when the actual shooter is removed from the equation.
What britrifles is doing in service rifle competition and what F-Class guys are doing is what shooting is all about. When you become one with the rifle, and if that includes trying to tweak that little fraction of accuracy out of that rifle by making that miniscule powder charge weight adjustment then so be it. 
The BR dudes do not have the handicap of actually having to hold an actual rifle and get into the various positions prior to shooting...


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Originally posted by A square 10 A square 10 wrote:

i rather like your AR and i realize this is not the forum for it but if you wish to tell us more of it on the CT im interested , ive not shot any of these matches but might one day if opportunity presents itself , im still getting used to retirement these days , 

be careful, Service Rifle can be addicting, 


I shoot it regularly for about 10 yrs until a job change took away my Sat's off, 



I bought an estate a few years ago that had some custom bench rest and varmint guns in it, 

they sold well, but the questions about them (round count, headspace,  who made it,  round count, previous history , any matches won etcetcetc,) were relentless, 

all sold relatively quickly,   

we also picked up another a few weeks ago,  
monstrosity built on a M1917 action,  big heavy barrel, 
really large laminate stock with built in rails on the bottom to ride the bags or bench, 
may take forever to sell, but not worried, the Unertl that was one it is worth way more than we paid for the complete set,,



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Originally posted by lyman1903 lyman1903 wrote:

Originally posted by Goosic Goosic wrote:

We have a 1000 yard range here and that is where I watched a two man operation punching in computer codes into a laptop and watching all the gizmos whirring away until the contraption that houses the barrel and breaching mechanism stopped. The sighting in was done via two camera links setup between the contraption and the target and one camera on a drone. The one computer tech tapped the Enter button on the laptop, the contraption made a loud crack sound and a couple of seconds later after reading the telemetry off of the laptop, the two man operation high five each other and then started the process over again. That is not shooting when the actual shooter is removed from the equation.
What britrifles is doing in service rifle competition and what F-Class guys are doing is what shooting is all about. When you become one with the rifle, and if that includes trying to tweak that little fraction of accuracy out of that rifle by making that miniscule powder charge weight adjustment then so be it. 
The BR dudes do not have the handicap of actually having to hold an actual rifle and get into the various positions prior to shooting...


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Skynet became self aware 24 years ago at 2:14 am Eastern Standard time on August 29th 1997...Hug...
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