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    Posted: March 16 2020 at 8:58pm
So I shot both my Criterion barreled No.4 and my MkII* metford the other day and just thought I'd post the results. The No.4 shot high so not every round hit the paper but I will tell you what happened anyway.
I shot five different loads from the No.4 as follows,
Hornady 150 grain bullets from their custom line load with three rounds hitting the paper and grouped 2,438 inches center to center,
Campro 180 grain bullets on top of 42 grains of BL-C(2) with a total grouping of 5.386 and a second grouping of 1.186 inches,
A load of 180 grain Sierra bullets backed by 42 grains of BL-C(2) and another load of the Sierra bullets backed by 37 grains of Varget that grouped 1.929 and 5.536 inches respectably and my hunting load from last year of woodleigh 174 grain bullets with 43 grains of BL-C(2) that grouped 3.5 inches from my Ross rifle and they grouped 4.284 inches center to center. Now I am having trouble feeding from the magazine. The rounds are caching on the edge of the chamber. How do I fix this? Will finish report later.
The Lee Enfield is to the Canadian north what the Winchester repeater was to the American west.   Cal Bablitz
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Are only certain rounds with certain bullets feeding poorly? Or is it an issue with all? Most of the time a feed issue like that requires a little adjusting to the feed lips on the magazine, but bullet type can make a difference too.
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 Your Varget load is a bit light.  Minimum charge on the Hodgdon website is 38.0 grains with the 174 SMK. Varget is also known to be prone to erratic ignition with light loads in cold temperatures.  Since you live in Alberta, this might be the reason for the larger group as compared to BL-C(2). 

Try 40 gr Varget with that bullet.  In cold weather, a magnum primer may help. 

Is the bullet tip hanging up on the edge of the chamber or bottom edge of the feed ramp?   The mag should be seated so that the front upper edge of the auxiliary spring sits behind and level to the feed ramp, not underneath it. 






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To finish the report, I also shot two loads from the metford, one from 50 yards and another from 100.
The 50 yard load was Woodleigh's 215 grain bullets on top of 36 grains of Varget. I developed the load data from the 220 7.62x54R load adjusted for the differents in case volume then back off nearly two grains. It grouped 6.236 inches.
The 100 yard was Hornady's custom 150 grain load. It formed a triangle group that measured 11.2 inches on the longest side. So I am thinking that I will probably have it rebarreled. But that got me thinking about going with something different then the .303 British. Something like the .256 Mannlicher (6.5x53R Dutch) or the 7x75R.
As for the feeding trouble in the No.4, they catch ether on the point of the bullet or the lip of the case on the bottum edge of the chamber. Round nosed bullets and bullets that have the cases crimped in a crimp ring don't catch as often. Will check the magazine. Nice to know that info on BL-C(2). Will probably try that out with Woodleigh 174 grain bullets as I liked how they preformed last hunting season.
The Lee Enfield is to the Canadian north what the Winchester repeater was to the American west.   Cal Bablitz
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303 hunter, are your rifles in this post in their military furniture?

you fellas that discuss reloading and experiment with different loads write interesting posts.  

I don’t reload much oof anything.  Just stick with factory loads, and have only experimented with different manufacturers.  I find that my No 4 that I hunt deer with really likes the S&B 180 grain, and the PPU 174 grain.  Never had any problems with feeding or misfires with either manufacturer.

Maybe I should send my brass to one of you guys, instead of handing it off to the desk sales staff at my local gun store to give to someone else I don’t know.
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The No.4 is has a L42 A1 sniper rifle stock and the metford has the typical Lee Enfield style sporter stock.
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Originally posted by Whitjr Whitjr wrote:




Maybe I should send my brass to one of you guys, instead of handing it off to the desk sales staff at my local gun store to give to someone else I don’t know.

You could always pass it off to another North Carolinian who reloads his .303  :)
...and a good time was had by all
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