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    Posted: November 21 2011 at 3:56am
Yes I KNOW it isn't an Enfield but it IS  a problem and maybe someone has an answer that will get me going.

I have been looking for some larger hand grips for my Pietta 1858 New Model Army revolver - not fancy ones just BIGGER ones! Can't find anything so have decided to try and make some myself.
I can see that it should be easy to cut blanks BUT how do you shape them so they are uniform?



Here is a start...........................



Here is what it looks like at the moment Wacko


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When you say "bigger" do you mean wider (fatter) deeper (front to back) taller (top to bottom) or all 3? I'm not sure what the 20mm is indicating in your picture.

If you're trying to male the grip so that the little finger can wrap round instead of going under as in the picture how about a "base plug". Basically a disc (or egg-shaped) piece of wood under the existing grip & then cover the original wood & metal & belt sand to match?
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Maybe I should have said Longer (taller!) by 20 mm so I can actually hold the grip with all my fingers.
The rest of the grip dimensions are OK
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OK, got it.
Your hands are bigger than mine I can get them all onto the standard one though so I'm not too sure how useful this is going to be.
I'd figure either make a pair of scales, just like the existing ones, but make the bottom 20mm longer. Either extend the lines straight on from the existing end, or cut them back in so the pinky could wrap round. Next make a filler the width of the grip frame, & make a second & third cross-pin so the grips can be removed for cleaning. The pins would have to pass through the filler insert so I'd probably make them a permanent fit in that piece & have nubs for the longer scales to fit into.

Second way would be to make a dupe of the existing grips & then make an oval cross-section "base extender". I'd probably make the attachment permanent on one side & pinned for alignment on the other.

There are folks making custom grips for these, usually in some kind of plastic resin, maybe they could pour some kind of extended mold for you?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Blanc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2011 at 7:53am
A guy I know bought a second hand Remie Euroarms, the previous owner must have had massive hands, as it came with custom made grips, as Shamu describes filler part glued (I think rather than pegged) very well finished in walnut, wider than the originals as well. 
I just live with the grips on my Remington Euroarms, as you small finger not comfortable really.  They must have had small hands in the days these pistols were made.
 
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Thanks for the input.

A pal of mine who is much better at wood working than I am is coming over on Saturday with a few tools and some wood.
I think the way to go is to extend as per the picture and make a filler piece to go below the frame.
It's getting the profile right that I see as a problem but maybe there is a chance with a profile gauge and lots of time!

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I think the biggest problem is going to be still having the grip panels detachable with any insert in the bottom!
Whatever ends up as the result is still going to have to open in some way so the grip panels can lift off of the locating pin in the grip frame to allow for cleaning & so on. That's why I was suggesting fixing the add-on to one side & just pinning it at the other.
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That's the way I am going at the moment Shamu, I think it will all come together this weekendSmile
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Good luck & (of course) post pictures when you're done!Tongue

Is it just the picture angle or did you make a flat on the rear face of the front sight?
I have an Uberti & the round front sight is not real easy to get a repeatable sight picture with.

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Nice looking Remy!

Yes, my front sight is modified, the idea being, when it is properly blacked, to cut down reflection.



I have also opened up the rear sight channel which works much better for centering the foresight.



I have to wear Varifocal glasses with a 2½ times prism in the right lens and these mods work fine for me.
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looks a workable fix to me for the grips and i like the modified sights as well
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So, what happened, didya get bigger grips?
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Yes, I am currently just putting the finish on them. They will be ready to shoot with by next Wednesday. Meantime, here are some progress pics for you.













I will photo the completed gun and post the pics later.Smile
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wonderful job , congrats on that , i envey your free time and your tallent
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