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    Posted: October 17 2019 at 5:30am
he!!o, gentlemen. I am back to ask a short question. I recently got the washer and pin to retain the back sight leaf axis pin. The small cross pin that keeps the washer on is loose to the point that I can move it with my fingers easily. My question is this:

Do I have to bend the pin in some way? Or should I get a very thin shim to back up the washer and make the pin fit more tightly?

I want it to look proper for the gun.
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I'll handle this one, Hoadie! I myself was corrected early on after joining the forum. I believe the correct term is "rifle", not gun.
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You can gently tap the axis pin retaining pin towards the washer, kind of bending and flaring it into the washer. It can sometimes take that wiggle out of it.
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X2 with Bear's advice. Use a pin punch to tap and bend the ends into the washer groove.

Or, take the pin out and place it on a hard surface. Peen the center and flatten it just a touch. Because being flattened, it moves metal to make it wider. It will hold fast when you put it back into the pivot pin.

Cleanest and neatest way might be be to just make a new retaining pin that fits tight. It is supposed to be a light drive fit to stay put.

I use a suitably sized diameter plain steel panel pin (tiny nail). If I can't find one in the tin, I'll find one that is just a bit too fat as I can spin it in a hand drill and reduce the diameter with a file for a perfect fit. I snip the head and tail off to length with pliers and then dress the ends with a file.
Takes about as long to make as does reading this post.

Start it in the hole and drive it with a pin punch.

I think that I saw some of the wee pins at one time listed on Epay. The price tag was six bucks each!
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Yeah, those tiny things cost a fortune to buy. I discovered that too. Much easier to make one than go through that expense.
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Thank you all. Numrich had them for all of $2.75. It just occurred to me that I should mention that they have proper, new production, extractors for the 2A1. and for only $23! I bought one of those as well. It fit like a dream after some filing, and looks a whole heck of a lot like the extractor I swapped it out with.
Now I just need the repro front hand guard to come in from England (an Ebay find made of Indian Rosewood) and my Ishy will finally be complete.
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interesting how we all become machinists and armature gunsmiths/armorers with these projects , 
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Originally posted by Honkytonk Honkytonk wrote:

I'll handle this one, Hoadie! I myself was corrected early on after joining the forum. I believe the correct term is "rifle", not gun.
 

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Been a while since I saw that movie. Nice one!
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I’m an old Marine and I lived that scene in boot camp.
I relive it every time I hear or read the word “rifle”.😎
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Originally posted by Rob3Bruce Rob3Bruce wrote:

Thank you all. Numrich had them for all of $2.75. It just occurred to me that I should mention that they have proper, new production, extractors for the 2A1. and for only $23! I bought one of those as well. It fit like a dream after some filing, and looks a whole heck of a lot like the extractor I swapped it out with.
Now I just need the repro front hand guard to come in from England (an Ebay find made of Indian Rosewood) and my Ishy will finally be complete.
 
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Numrich has a nice collection of Ishi spare parts!
 
Except, that they don´t ship to Europe
 
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