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Berdan Primers for .303 |
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peashooter ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: August 05 2010 Location: North Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 28 |
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Does anyone know which Berdan type primer .303 British use and where I can get hold of some in the UK for reloading.
thanks Richard. |
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Kysusha ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 24 2010 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 96 |
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Hi, I have a similar predicament – I just got 4 boxes of berdan primers in a Deceased Estate lot [that they guy had been using for .303 Mk However, how do you go about seating them? They are a different size to the Boxer primer and don’t fit into the hand primer tool I have. |
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Ed Hill ![]() Special Member ![]() ![]() Donating Member Joined: February 06 2006 Location: Northern PRK Status: Offline Points: 1394 |
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Sometimes a standard large rifle primer cup will work. Wear glasses and try carefully.
Getting them out of the case is the tricky part! Ed |
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Kysusha ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 24 2010 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 96 |
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Ed, a mate of mine said that he used a vise to seat them - placed a dowl in the cartidge and a block of wood on one jaw of the vise - insered the case between them [with the cap sitting in position] and then quietly tightened up the vise. I reckon I got a bummer anyway 'cause he also said that you get about two reloads from the cases as the anvil wears down and fails to ignite the cap! Makes sense.
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Ed Hill ![]() Special Member ![]() ![]() Donating Member Joined: February 06 2006 Location: Northern PRK Status: Offline Points: 1394 |
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I'm sure that would work, but I doubt it's NRA approved! That's why I stick with working with boxer cases, I've reloaded some 6 times and they're still looking good.
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Kysusha ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 24 2010 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 96 |
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Yeah, reckon it calls for some serious eye protections when doing it! Like a full face shield.
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Tararuaphil ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: June 01 2014 Location: New zealand Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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If you want some Berdan primers for the 303 "Gunworks" of christchurch New Zealand has some @ the moment but they may be expensive for you to be sent back to England.
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DairyFarmer ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2014 Location: In The South Status: Offline Points: 555 |
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At some stage you will need to replace the brass anyway. Why go through all that effort and expense of sourcing Berdans. Rather bite the bullet and just start fresh with Boxer brass.
Unless of course you have a massive supply of Berdan brass. You can adapt a ram primer to accept one of the 3 sizes of Berdan primers. There is info on this on the net.
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Tararuaphil ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: June 01 2014 Location: New zealand Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Like all cases they certainly will need replacing but because I do have a good supply of berdans & can get them regularly including the smaller berdans for 308 I may as wel utilise them & I get good accuracy from them.
I had a Simplex press left me by my nephew some years ago so I made up a new primer cup & stem for the 303 berdans as well as drilling out the seat hole to match, then using a small electric grinder I ground back the ram slot ( the disk just fits) & reload like normal. To take off the crimp I just use a drill chuck with an over size short bit with a recess on the point by putting it against a bench grinder wheel corner to create the recess. It all may seem a lot of work but once set up you'd then have the capacity to do any brass cheaply.
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Shamu ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Logo Designer / Donating Member Joined: April 25 2007 Location: MD, USA. Status: Offline Points: 13015 |
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There are actually 2 different sizes used depending on where the cases were originally made.
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DairyFarmer ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2014 Location: In The South Status: Offline Points: 555 |
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Sorry, Huntington makes 3 size primer seaters (.217 .240 and .255). There are about half a dozen different primer sizes. According to http://www.dave-cushman.net/shot/berdan_supplies_dimensions.html .303 British MK-7 (K60, K61 and K68 head stamps) use a .250
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flanker ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: March 30 2012 Location: Aberdeenshire Status: Offline Points: 334 |
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I have a lot of berdan brass and a hydro punch for removing the primers, can't find any primers in the UK though.
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Gun Nut 4 ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: December 07 2015 Location: Kingston Status: Offline Points: 65 |
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I can't say, but I think it depends upon what armory they were manufacture in. i have .303 cartridge cases that have different Berdan primers sizes. I drill them out and insert shotgun primers.
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Gun Nut 4 ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: December 07 2015 Location: Kingston Status: Offline Points: 65 |
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I actually make a punch out of a flat screw driver bit with a Dremel Tool. the trick was to get the right spread between the two points. If you take the head off one of the cases you can measure between the two flash-holes. However, it only works in that particular type of cartridge, if the cartridge uses a larger Berdan primer the flash-hole are space differently.
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Shamu ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Logo Designer / Donating Member Joined: April 25 2007 Location: MD, USA. Status: Offline Points: 13015 |
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The South African made ammo can be re-primed with the correct Berdan, assuming you can find them. The British used a bigger primer & I've never found a source for that oddball size.
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