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    Posted: March 30 2020 at 5:05am
Now that I’ve got the Long Branch No. 4 Mk 1/2 shooting well, I’m considering doing something about the metal finish.  Someone in the past who was charged with care of this rifle decided he wanted to completely remove the metal finish.  It’s practically white.  Looks like he did it with sandpaper.  Even the magazine is white.  It wasn’t A Square 10, he got it in that condition.  

The rifle is somewhat collectible, being a 1941 Long Branch Mk 1 (no star) later upgraded to the hung trigger Mk 2 configuration.  So, it’s not original, but I don’t particularly like the white metal.  

What are my options here?  Small parts can be oil blackened, but what to do with the receiver?  Even the is mostly white, but it’s mostly covered.

I don’t want to do anything that will reduce the value, but having no finish at all just doesn’t look right. 

 
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One of the commercial no bake black finish should do well.
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I have used High Temperature B-B-Q paint on several "practice" rifles with great success. They were old beat up .22 Cooeys that had lots of surface rust and not much bluing. I used them as test cases, and exposed them to rain, etc. I did them about two years ago and they both still look great! The rattle can paint does on nice (prep the steel) and drys to a matte finish, but you can use a clean cotton rag and buff that up once the paint cures. 
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I think paint would completely cover the electro pencil markings, although I could mask that off.  I’m thinking of parkerizing the small parts as an option, can get from Brownells.  
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You would be amazed at the clarity of stampings on rifles! It's like the paint makes them jump out! I've done a lot of paint jobs with a rattle can. The trick is light coats, keep the can moving. Especially on a round barrel. Stop after each thin coat... You will have missed something. I have always been happy with the results.
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Another option, Birchwood Casey Perma Blue.  Supposed to produce a deep black finish. That may be a shiny finish, which I don’t really want.  


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Cold blues are finicky, each one seems to react differently in the same situation.
When I re-blued the No9 folding sight I used 3 different ones!
they can be made to work, but do your testing in a small spot FIRST.

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I ordered some Perma Blue, I’ll try a section on the barrel that is hidden by the wood.  I think prep will be everything here.  I’ve got a good place to start, it’s pretty much down to bare metal already.  It just doesn’t look right leaving in this condition. It shouldn’t hide the electro pencil markings. 






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The man I send my No.4 to be rebarreled coated the metal with black ceramic paint.
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I've heard good things about Oxpho-blue. I never had much luck with B-C bluing. Ive used it for screws and touch ups, but never a bigger project.
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Originally posted by britrifles britrifles wrote:

Another option, Birchwood Casey Perma Blue.  Supposed to produce a deep black finish. That may be a shiny finish, which I don’t really want.  


I use perma blue paste. Yes it will leave a shiny finish on polished metal just don't polish the parts to be blued.
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Ive used VHT brake caliper paint, though it needs to be baked ounce cured. Tuff as nails and can be burnished if desired.
Did my old 64b a couple yrs ago, not a chip or scratch it my beater rifle.
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Have you considered doing it 'the old way' (as the LE was originally 'blued')

(Not sure if some of the ingredients are legally still available)

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I thought that was the No1's?
No4's were paint over park!
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Originally posted by Shamu Shamu wrote:

I thought that was the No1's?
No4's were paint over park!


It was / is, that's why I said the 'old way' as the paint used on No4's is no longer available (Brian d**k has a pint or two left but is keeping hold of it)
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There is a modern one that gives an almost identical finish, same semi-gloss & is also as tough as a rhino's horn.
I think its one of the "Kote" paints, GunKote CeramaKote.
George Nelson (AIF) on here refinished a no 4 with it & it looked perfect. Let me see if I can find the post.

Oops not "Kote at all"
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