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I replenish my 303 brass when a buddy comes over with his lewis gun.  He only shoots privy partisan new ammo in it. And since he does not reload...it's all good . Finding click band indian/paki ammo is always good for the boolitz but nothing else , although my garden likes the cordite raked in the soil !.
    Please do take the advice and give the brass to someone that will put it to use. You may even find a web board local to you to swap it for loaded 303 or something else you seek. My local scrap dealer only gets berdan and or worn out brass. Even when I cull out gobs of 40 cal and 380 I give it to my local smithy whom resells or trades it , same with rifle calibers I do not load for. Waste not , want not .
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Just reported on a social media site that Canadian Tire in Belleville, Ontario, selling Federal 303 British 150 grain for $71.99/box of 20. $3.60 per round.....
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anyone tried the wolf steel cased 303 ?
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Originally posted by Canuck Canuck wrote:

Just reported on a social media site that Canadian Tire in Belleville, Ontario, selling Federal 303 British 150 grain for $71.99/box of 20. $3.60 per round.....
This my thinking on the price gouging. Make the ammunition so unobtainable that you can no longer afford it and make the primers nonexistent for the civilian market that your rifles,shotguns, and pistols become wall hangers. In the U.S., you will still have the right to, "Keep and Bear Arms" you just will not be able use them the way they were intended to be used. Just a bunch of fancy baseball bats...
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Seriously guys.
Lee Whack-A-Mole.
You can do it safely & with better accuracy than factory. Yes, you'll need a few things, a set of powder scoops (Not vital, but they give you access to many more powders)
A 6" dial caliper (cheap plastic is fine.)
A rubber, or hide mallet. (no sparks & you won't beat up the rods.)

I have taught absolute beginners with zero knowledge of reloading to do it & do it well, on a Picnic bench in the Ozarks!
It will load 2 rounds every 3 minutes withing a day of starting off.
At those prices you'll pay for it in less than 50 rounds & it will last for ever.
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Totally agree. Although reloading components (powder, primers, projectiles) has gone up in price, I can still load ammunition for way less than store prices. My reloading station(s) is from the '60's, but not counting brass cleaning, I can easily load 40 rounds in an hour. If you asked me 2 years ago if it was cheaper to reload, I would say no... 
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i found powder for my 4570 this past week - its been allusive for months , i now have all the needed components to work up my loads , i found my small pistol primers first part of the summer and im now able to load all of what i need for a couple years of shooting , im kinda happy im not looking for other calibers these days , it was easy getting started everything was on the shelf , 
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Perhaps the component and ammunition companies are enjoying these high prices and don’t really have the motivation to meet the demand else it will result in competition and a return to lower prices.  I think this is especially true with primers.  
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I think they're just swamped with new gun owner demand & short staffed because the the Fu-Flu still.
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Talking with my work Chemists about it.
Lead azide and lead styphnate which is used in the production of detonators & primers is in world wide shortage at present. 
 Much of this is a by-product of industrial processes that use lead.  industry world-wide is trying minimise / eradicate use of lead in anything (such as paints/ fuel/ etc). Even third world countries have cut back on using lead.   Its not economic to make it just for the ammunition industry, therefore not much to be had anywhere.

Similar scenario to the United Kingdom having a Carbon Dioxide Shortage Crisis at present.


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Funny how lead bullets (and lead batteries) are plentiful, but primers are not.  Something else is going on particular to primers. 
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I am not attempting to disagree with your assessment Marco1010 but,  I highly doubt that primer manufacturers are having a difficult experience locating the necessary components to produce primers. As britrifles stated. The vast majority of bullets are made with lead cores as well. The economics of trying to reduce the amounts of lead in the process of bullet manufacturing is not conducive to the ammunition industries especially when you consider the numbers created for military use. Something or someone else is creating this primer shortage for the reloading market. I have been fortunate enough in the past year in a half to find rifle cartridge cases, powder, and bullets. Primers on the other hand, have become damn near impossible to find. The same can be said for percussion caps for my Colt Navy revolvers...
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something is happening behind the scenes tho - why do we no longer have a single lead smelrter in this country , and now we no longer have a black powder producer ? guess we will have to go back to making our own , 
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sorry guys. Its not a lack of lead smelting as such, if it did it would be simple.
these chemicals come from quite a different process. Normally these are a common by product of making lead additives that go into petrol. Almost no countries make leaded fuel these days , so producers have to get it from elsewhere. as its not common any longer , the price goes up and availability goes down, and very few factories exist any longer to make it.  this is common in the global commodity market.
Just Like Vinyl factories, of which there are only 2 in the world left and one is out of action till late 2022 due to a fire.
Ironically your ban on importing russian ammo might work in your favour as it will encourage some in the US to set up production to meet domestic USA demand.
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